Conversation Between Jimbo1234 and Christ Is Lord
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Hm, I see you never got back to my messages. Well no surprise there, though I am impressed you tried for so long.
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A 2000 year old book is going to "save" me?
Really? Following that logic I shall tell you that The Odyssey is in fact the key to "saving" you.
Nest time try to post a link to something with some logical basis besides opinion and ignorance. -
Still waiting.
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Still waiting...........
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SOURCES
Lambers-Petry , The image of the Judaeo-Christians in ancient Jewish and Christian literature, 2003.
Freedman & Fox Khulken, What are the Dead Sea Scrolls and Why Do They Matter?, 2007.
Hodge, The Dead Sea Scrolls : an introductory guide, 2001.
Cushman McGiffert, The History of the Church, Eusebius, 2005.
Whiston, Antiquities of the Jews, 2010.
And I have read the Bible. It has no sources, has copied many previous mythologies, is contradictory, and frankly any book that advocates slaughter is vile. -
Go check out the sources then
That is what they are there for, to show that it is not written by some kid.
However, I do think that the Bible might have been written by a kid as that has no sources. -
Part II
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Paul took Gnosticism to the Gentiles as a revelatory cult enshrined within the earlier messianic expectation of the Essene Teacher of Righteousness. Paul's epistles were addressed, not to Christians, but to Gnostics who were divided into different levels of Gnostic initiation. Hence, Paul's Jesus is more like the Gnostic Ieou than the Jesus of the Gospels.
Then the time came for the synoptic Gospels to be written. No-one knows how these Gospels came to be. We only have very late copies of them. We have no original manuscripts apart from a few small fragments of John's Gospel. I believe that Mark wrote a Jewish version of Homer's Odyssey. Matthew Judaized Mark's Gospel.
Luke used both Mark and Matthew.
Sources:
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Lambers-Petry , The image of the Judaeo-Christians in ancient Jewish and Christian literature, 2003.
Freedman & Fox Khulken, What are the Dead Sea Scrolls and Why Do They Matter?, 2007.
Hodge, The Dead Sea Scrolls : an introductory guide, 2001.
Cushman McGiffert, The History of the Church, Eusebius, 2005.
Whiston, Antiquities of the Jews, 2010.
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You seemed to have forget to reply to my post, so here it is again (Part I):
Spoiler:ShowORIGIN of Christianity
It started with Jews wanting to get involved with pagan ceremonies.
So they attempted to Semitise the pagan stories of Dionysus and Osiris. The Jewish Christians at Jerusalem were Ebionites, a group that later had branched
off from the Essenes at Qumran, the people who worshipped the Teacher of Righteousness. Paul the apostle took it one step further. Having tried to get other
Jews to convert, and hence all the trouble in the Jewish synagogues, the Christians (who were not known as Christians at this time) turned to the Gentiles
with this form of Jewish-paganism. The orthodox Jews would not accept their teaching. Paul knew the Mysteries of Mithras and the other gods having grew up at Tarsus, and he was well aware of the Gnostic doctrines too, and he took the salvation blood sacrifice of Mithras and preached the salvation of the cross as a
revelation to the Gentiles. The Gentiles found much in common with this new cult. But the Gnostic revelatory aspects of this cult provided Gentiles with something fresh and innovative.
The destruction of the Temple in 70CE was a major catalyst. The earliest Christians were apocalyptic Essenes who before the Temple fell joined the Zealots and the Sicarii to fight the Roman empire. Paul took these groups in a new direction from the original Peter/Ebionite groups.