Conversation Between Nepene and riotgrrl
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See, I've found that people who dislike stereotypes because they're feminist, like you, just tend to make a different set of stereotypes for the people you like and dislike. I can simply continue to use all gender stereotypes for the majority of women who respond positively to it, and simply avoid any stereotypes about sluttiness or men being better at anything.
Obviously, it's ok to use stereotypes about women being better at things and about men being sluts with feminists- it's in fact encouraged.
I generally find that feminists hold much stronger stereotypes than most people. You can't avoid them.
But I didn't say all, or even most, I said many. In the course of about a day, you've discovered two, is it really that hard to believe that there might be more?
"Many women dislike being stereotyped"
It's simplistic. Most women like some stereotypes and dislike others. You're trying to fit women into an all or nothing category, one which very few women fall into. You fit them into that neat little category and assumed all women held just one view on a huge subject.
How exactly did you take the comment "the 3 billion+ women on this planet don't all fit into neat little categories" and manage to interpret it as "I think women are simple"?
The woman I was talking about, she hated stereotypes. He hated the objectification of women in society. That's what she said. In reality she hated specific stereotypes, and liked other stereotypes. Women aren't as simple as you seem to be implying. I've often met girls who complained about stereotypes and then proceeded to joke about how all men wanted was sex.
There isn't a secret formula to attracting women. But some ways, specific ways rather than vague things like "make her feel special" work better than others.
I'm not saying that there aren't some women who don't mind being stereotyped (because unlike you, I seem to grasp that the 3 billion+ women on this planet don't all fit into neat little categories); what I am saying is that
a) Many women dislike being stereotyped
b) Most of your stereotypes are probably wrong
c) You can't blithely discount a woman's opinion on what kind of guys she likes and why ("he makes me feel special" is perfectly valid and most people with any sense of intelligence would be able to work out how to do that) because she at least knows herself. There's no secret formula to attracting women and if you understood women as well as you seem to think you do, you'd be off shagging a supermodel instead of sitting around on TSR.
Haha, yes, lesbians do know how to get women. I remember a story on FML. A girl told her boyfriend that she had become a lesbian and that she bet she could seduce a straight girl before him. She won.
Women tend not to know how they like to be seduced. They just use vague words like "He's funny" or "he's cute" or "He made me feel special" to describe a vast range of behaviours that a guy may have.
To use an example from my own life. I was talking to a self confessed feminist girl. She was talking about the kinda of love she liked. It sounded somewhat stalker like, and so I teased her for being a twilight girl, and imitated stereotypes of a girly fourteen year old. She laughed, and said she hated twilight and wasn't like that, and was notably more animated after that.
According to the girl in the thread, that shouldn't have happened as girls don't like men who stereotype women. I know different.
Just bi ones? Surely the lezzers know best! :P
Of course women have a solid idea of how men can get women... because they know how they like to be seduced. I don't buy this whole "intangible" crap and I don't buy that you know women better than they know themselves.
To answer your question about whether girls know how to get girls- only bi ones. A straight girl like the one in the thread will only have developed tactics to seduce men.
Women tend to like fairly intangible aspects of a man's personality. They rarely (in my experience) know exactly what turns them on, they just feel it. We men tend to have simpler desires and can easily point to, say, large boobies.
I had no special desire to reopen the thread.