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			<title>Stoicism</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know a lot about or practice Stoicism? I like many aspects of it especially those exemplified by the Roman statesman Cato the Elder. What are everyone thoughts on it? Has anyone never heard of it? Got any misconceptions? I know the word stoic is often misuse these days.<br />
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			<title>What would you like to know?</title>
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			<div class="message">This is a very difficult question I think.  After a bit of consideration, I would like to know whether existence is preferable to non-existence.<br />
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If I'm interpreting your question right, then the answer according to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems" target="_blank">Gödel's incompleteness theorems</a> is that it can't.</div>
			
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</div>Not really. The only answer Godel's theorem(s) give is that you can't find the answer within mathematics (/mathematical logic). That's precisely why I chose this! :p</div>

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			<title>In Marxist theory, what happens if the Bourgeois take their factories and all the res</title>
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			<title>Is it possible to accurately predict the future?</title>
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			<div class="message">Deduction being the process by which you move fom two true premises or propositions to a conclusion (Aristotle the Syllogism), a logically valid method of gaining knowledge, yet <b>if you cannot know the momentum and position of a particle (Schroedinger (if that is how you spell it)) then rationalism as a means of gaining knowledge is somewhat obselete</b>. However induction seems to be still valid. For an example of induction if you were standing on a bridge and you saw 10 white swans swim past, you could predict (hypothesis) that all swans are white, with a small amount of accuracy, et.c. for 100, 1000...However it only takes one black swan to prove this wrong. Hence, Karl Popper, a contemporary philosopher said that scientific knowledge is implicitly disprovable only. Yet it is the only method that we can use in our search for knowledge</div>
			
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</div>That's not correct. In QM, it simply does not make sense to talk of momentum and position at the same time. However, you can know a particle's &quot;exact&quot; state with arbitrary accuracy at any given time. The price to pay is simply disturbing the &quot;natural&quot; evolution of this state. But there is still a lot of deducing that can be done! (although the other comments were true)</div>

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			<title>Intelligence, Personality and Beauty</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 08:49:27 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I think it's natural for people to get frustrated with people for being 'stupid' or 'an idiot', or for being a bad person, and then blame them for their shortcomings, but as you point out, a person's intelligence, memory, will power, personality, values, disposition, etc., are not chosen by them but are determined by other factors.  An understanding of this helps a person to develop empathy with others and frees you from the burden of feeling as stressed or hard-done-by as you might otherwise feel when you others have wronged you.<br />
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That a person has a shortcoming that causes them to have negatively affected you in some way is indeed bad for you, but it is worse for that person who has to live their whole life having that shortcoming.  The worse a person is, the more sympathy I would tend to have for them having to live that life, and the more glad I am that I was on the receiving end of their actions and not the person committing them myself.</div>

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			<title>The Earth would be far better off without humans.</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:10:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<div class="message">In my imagination the mankind will destroy the earth one day, as people are not able to manage the problems in the whole world anymore. On the contrary! instead of to solve (big) problems, mankind's problems is getting worse and bigger all the time. Most of them underestimate the dangers of their habits. Without humans the world has a chance to save itself. I guess the existence of humans will be over before the existence of the earth has gone by. I hope so at least.</div>
			
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</div>The earth is far more capable of looking after itself than we give it credit for.<br />
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There has in fact, been many periods in earth's history when excessive greenhouse gases (which were caused naturally) built up in the atmosphere, and the earth's carbon cycle managed to re-assert itself. The last time it happened, it took a mere 70,000 years.<br />
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Therefore, the question isn't so much how to save the earth from us, but how we can save humanity from itself.</div>

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			<title>IS this a choice.</title>
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			<div class="message">In reality things are much more complicated, all markets are mixed- to have some degree of freedom and control.<br />
What's the point of arguing that, absolute FREE/OWNED market is far more better than the other? I truly believe, the mixed type is the best for human beings. And it really depends on the circumstances to adjust how free the market should be.</div>
			
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</div>Because unless we drew up manifesto's we would have no idea of where each other stood on the majority of issues.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Is cannibalism "immoral"?]]></title>
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			<div class="message">Except claiming it is immoral and shouldn't be done on this basis damages their freedom which is also immoral, otherwise it would make sense to view all discussion and insults immoral as they lead to hurt feelings and everyone would be expected to live their lives as their family desires. It isn't a simple issue and you need to weight up whether their freedom to decide what happens to their body is above some ones desire to see their family treated well even if against an individuals wishes.</div>
			
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</div>Fine, but by using the definition posted earlier it is immoral, that's all I'm stating.</div>

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			<title>Knowledge and belief paradox</title>
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			<div class="message">A while ago a friend and I were chatting and he had told me about a paradox he came up with concerning our beliefs. It's displayed in the statements below, both of which many of us will hold true.<br />
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1) <b>For every given belief we hold, we know it to be true (for if we did not think it true it would not be a belief).<br />
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2) <b>We do not think that every belief we hold is true.</b><br />
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Thoughts on this? How do we go about solving this paradox? What implications does it have for knowledge?</div>
			
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</div>If 1 is the standard by which we define belief (i.e., a notion we 'know' to be true), then 2 is simply a false statement.<br />
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Secondly, our belief in our knowledge of the truth value of a statement doesn't guarantee the truth value of that statement, only that at that given point we believe that we have justified true belief in the truth of said statement. If that point is accepted, then 2 can be taken to mean that we accept any of our 'known' points could infact be proved incorrect, as we only <i>believe </i>to know they are true, rather than <i>know </i>they are true, in which case there is no contradiction.<br />
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			<div class="message">Our opinions are true to ourselves. You see, there's opinion and there's fact. You can't state an opinion as true, so while you personally believe it to be true you do not state that it is true for everybody. I'm not sure if my muddled thoughts make sense</div>
			
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</div>The phrase &quot;true to ourselves&quot; doesn't really make sense in terms of facts, obviously the only possible answer to 2+2 is 4, regardless of the observer. If you're referring to opinions, I don't see how you can claim an opinion can hold a truth value to anyone, for if it can it must be a universal fact, and therefore can only be true or false.</div>

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			<title>do you support social conservatism?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I don't.  It presumes that certain traditions/attitudes are inherently because they were done &quot;long ago&quot;.  Social conservatives also bemoan modern society due to its ill, well yeah, <i>which society that has ever existed has been perfect?  </i>;)<br />
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Some will say these beliefs worked long ago, but so what? That society was different.<br />
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Is there any absolute reason why social conservatism is needed?  Or is the real reason why that God said so (even though no human alive today has ever met God, and that humans have different interpretations of the Bible)?</div>

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			<title>What do you like to believe?</title>
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			<div class="message">Just the inane ramblings of a madman. I wouldn't pay too much attention. :)</div>
			
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</div>but sometimes its the madmen that have the most interesting things to say</div>

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			<title><![CDATA["Free will is an illusion"]]></title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I think it is an illusion.  The only reason we believe in it is because we feel like we have it; nobody believes in it based on evidence or reasoning, but we rationalise our belief in it after the fact.</div>

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			<title>How do you define free will personally?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The freedom to have chosen otherwise.  There is no 'freedom' in the compatibilist definition - you do not choose your desires.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[A Poem Explaining Humankind's criteria for Existence]]></title>
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			<div class="message">Legendary.</div>
			
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</div>I was particularly interested in the line 'To protect the world against devastation' and it's implications for us as a species. Now, are we talking physical or metaphysical when we mean devastation as in was this written with the expectation that a black hole would cause mass cataclysm resulting in 'devastation' (metaphysical), or is it some other physical mode that destroys the Earth such as nuclear warfare (physical). Either way, the author's literary genius must be akin to that of Shakespeare's as this is no doubt no ordinary text.</div>

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			<title>Would the world be better off without morality?</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I would not say morality is weak. Morality is strong. with morality you are refraining from what you want, what you feel like doing sometimes because of your conscience. Moral standards take willpower. However, low/no morals means you do what you like without considering others. This is ignorance and selfishness, not strength.<br />
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			<title>What is the point of life? (atheists only please)</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>That's extremely flexible and personal to you. The meaning if life is basically what you want to have done with it once you die. I personally just want to be happy, really happy, I think everything else comes under it.<br />
However, if you mean 'why are we here?' Then without religion there isn't any emotional response to that. Religious people think that we were designed specially by God, but u just think it's evolution and natural selection that has put me here. There is no defined meaning of life, I just hope to have made an impact on somebody else's.<br />
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</div>Unless you slow down that refresh rate and for anything within the program to perceive it as normal.  But then again, why is a limit being placed on the processing power? XD</div>

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			<div class="message">But one could argue that about any academic field of study. I'm not sure that telling people they 'don't know enough to understand' is acceptable. Certainly the excellent current movement in science communication demonstrates that it is possible to make lay-people understand science.</div>
			
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</div>Even you could UNDERSTAND(like ether is the medium of transmission blah blah blah), <br />
if you don't believe and wanna do it all over again, how could we examine what they said by ourselves? We don't have the sophisticated tool and knowledge to do that.<br />
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If it's not something that we examine by ourselves , that's equivalent of believing others findings. Of course, Scientists would cross-examine their researches and make them more accountable.</div>

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			<div class="message">Then you can admit that your okay with inequality within our own already terribly unequal society??<br />
 There's a great study called the Spirit Level by Wilkinson and Pickett, i suggest giving that a read.<br />
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</div>I personally don't care, since we all hold equal opportunities.  Why should a person who studied/worked hard be &quot;hated&quot; because s/he is wealthy, has a nice house and a good job?  <br />
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Also, people often detest the rich because they are rich and &quot;have more&quot;, not because they are interested in social equity/fairness.  it's just large-scale envy at play.</div>

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			<title>permissive societies?</title>
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			<div class="message">It sounds like you've swallowed an essay question on Heidegger. What makes you think that permissive societies are particularly about the 'private sphere' of family and home?</div>
			
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</div>my philosophy AS textbook seems to imply so :/ haha oops. i suppose a permissive society could be justified under the arguments of strife? could an autonomy-based liberal society be permissive? i.e towards lifestyles which do not value autonomy.  Also struggling with the question..<br />
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&quot;Consider the view that in tolerant societies no particular way of good life should be promoted as superior&quot;<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Whilst saying that 'it is a miracle that a universe exists' could be a step too far because all that has to mean is the sum of everything, even if there is nothing, I could say that it is a miracle that any particles exist within that universe, let alone that some of those are conscious things.  There is no logical reason for there to be anything in the universe at all.  This is all miraculous. But if there is a creator they were - and are - not necessarily hands on at all. But if there ISN'T a creator how did any stuff just happen to exist? Like something that didn't already exist imagined it into existence?   Stuff doesn't just exist. Something happened.  <br />
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			<div class="message">When a kind of crime goes unpunished the person who does it takes the lack of meaningful consequence as society's blind indifference , or even acceptance, of what they did.   <br />
They will either hate people, or gain a quietly perverse pleasure, from people not caring more about their part. Either way, their respect for people will not become better. Their ways need to be examined, discussed, punished a bit, in order for social wounds to heal or the society will quietly bleed to death, affecting the young's quality of life more than anyone, instead under its own hypocrises of having supposedly changed'.</div>
			
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</div>Believe me, &quot;popular justice&quot;, even toned down as much as authorities can keep it in such situations, will do more than enough.<br />
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I think that more important than making people pay for whatever hedious crimes they have committed is creating the kind of stable social environment that can assure that such crimes will not be committed again. Having people who did legal atrocities go unpunished (legally) is, I believe, a reasonable price to pay for such a better future. As satistied as the victims could feel with that kind of justice, I find protecting the future more important that settling the score of the past.</div>

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			<div class="message">What kind of poll wouldn't give the choice 'both scenarios imply that maths is beautiful which I do not, or do not necessarily, agree with'.<br />
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You even said in your post 'Why should the laws of Nature be, among all the possible ones, beautiful?'<br />
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</div>If you read the OP carefully you'll realise the statement I made was &quot;physicists tend to see mathematical beauty in the laws they come up with to explain the functioning of the Universe&quot;. So we're not really discussing whether you find maths beautiful (in fact, the discussion is not even about maths itself, it is about the mathematical nature of physics) but instead we are stating &quot;many people find mathematical beauty in the laws of physics&quot; and wondering why that is possible.<br />
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I hope that was clear enough? (I recognise it can get confusing)</div>

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			<div class="message">But it's still interesting to wonder why we are content to gloss over the details of arguments and are often satisfied with incomplete or inconsistent ideas. Even philosophers whose role is to question everything and seek rational justification for their arguments still often rely deep down on faulty inconsistent intuitions. It may just be brain economy, but i'm not sure about this. How much more energy does deep (abstract, lateral, sceptical, or highly logical) thinking require compared to 'normal' thinking? <br />
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Modified theory: Perhaps we need an emotional aspect to understanding to help us 'know' whether we understand an idea or concept. The 'aha!' or lightbulb feeling is developed to let our conscious mind know when it fully comprehends an idea. Intuitive logical fallacies can trick the brain, and we are falsely informed that we understand the idea with the lightbulb feeling. However when it comes to applying the idea the logical fallacy/inconsistency becomes apparent and therefore makes it difficult for us to articulate the idea coherently. Thoughts?</div>
			
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</div>Thing is, thinking deeply requires spending more energy. How much more depends on the situation, but being more it's only natural we don't do it all the time.<br />
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			<title>Relativism</title>
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			<div class="message">Is it not a slippery slope into excusing all behaviour though?<br />
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Surely not everything can be relative - infanticide, murder, rape etc.<br />
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It's one thing to explain cultural reasons for the behaviour, but why can we not say that these things are absolutely wrong?</div>
			
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</div>Sorry for late reply, yeah relativism is a slippery slope i guess but then we cannot live in a completely absolutist society either, we need a mix of both. <br />
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If someone from a tribe who in their philosophy says they are allowed to have more than one wife lets say and then they come to an area where this is not allowed and they didn't know this, then should they still be punished the same as someone who did know the laws? <br />
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If society was completely relative then we would be in a problem definitely, because then we would not have any absolute laws - and like you said rape or murder may be justified, but relativism is still needed in society in my opinion.</div>

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			<div class="message">I wasn't saying that your whole research essay was pointless - the question of whether feral children  have a critical period for language development is a scientifically important one with real consequences. It's best settled empirically/scientifically, and the research you've read on it, and consolidated, will hopefully produce a great, solid essay. Wondering over whether they're humans, however, seems to be mere definitional quibblings of absolutely no consequence or importance.<br />
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And, anyway, I did give you an answer to the question of what is &quot;human nature&quot;.<br />
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What I said was that your question was at best question-begging and, at worst, unintelligible. It's like me asking &quot;what is the table-nature?&quot; or &quot;what is pig-nature?&quot; I can list things which all pigs have in common, if you want. But you assume there must be some common &quot;human nature&quot; in your question, which is question-begging. I hate it when vague and obscurantist terms are used in academic research. <br />
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But, anyway, if you want an <a rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essentialism" target="_blank">Essentialist's </a>response: Humans tend to be able to reason in a way in which other animals do not (though biologically-similar mentally-retarded counter-examples might challenge that clam). Humans appear to think reflectively, they often act in accordance with moral systems, they are often motivated by passions - governed by the sovereign powers of &quot;pain and pleasure&quot;, to use Bentham's language - often self-interested but also capable of acting with appreciation of other people's interests as their goal, like other animals they feel pain, and so forth and such like. Identities are often grasped dialogically, through interaction with others. Bleh.<br />
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As for whether language is a necessary condition for thought; I have no empirical evidence either way, and the question cannot be settled through other means. The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis would suggest not, and I would find it difficult to reason without some sort of linguistic apparatus in which to frame ideas. I anticipate Wittgenstein being cited as a support of the hypothesis, but I'm not certain he <i>would</i> say that you can't think without language, merely that philosophical problems are a result of language games. That doesn't necessarily commit you to the belief that thought cannot exist without language. Again, bleh.</div>
			
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</div>Well thanks. I know the questions I've asked here don't relate to my essay but I was told I must include a survey of public opinion and as the average person isn't gonna have a clue about critical periods and feral children and it's not really a matter of opinion so I was told I should have a more wishy washy question which people can just give their views on. You've tackled it in a manner which seems educated and based on research rather than just gut opinion, which isn't going to help me here. Believe me if I knew what was expected of us when I started this essay I would have chosen a completely different subject which I could research myself.</div>

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It's also incredibly useful. Philosophy can handle topics like meaning, ethics and even the nature of reality where other fields cannot. Philosophy's provided us with so many contributions to logic and even the understanding of reasoning itself, an enterprise shared by mathematics and computer science. And loads of other cool stuff.</div>

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</div>I can see how disgust over homosexuality (which does exist - the image of two men [usually men, rather than women] kissing usually invokes involuntary feelings of repulsion) might be instinctive. What else could it be? It's a different question whether the instinct is conditioned by media or present social relations or whether it's something deeper in human nature or genetic. The desire to have children - one's &quot;own blood&quot; or whatever other metaphor might be used - isn't based on any logic or reasoning. It's a drive. Many people do adopt, true, but a lot of people see value in having one's own children with their own genes. That value is baseless, groundless, underived from reason, but it does nevertheless exist innately in many people, to the extent that nobody would conceive of actually trying to solve the foster home crisis by insisting people adopt existing children rather than create their own. Homosexuals can never happily have that experience (which is fair enough - they might not want that) - but they operate in a society where other people value it. The nuclear family is something that many humans (not all) aspire to, and not sharing in that aspiration is a lonely experience - it makes you different, and different in a way which many people see as &quot;odd&quot;, especially-so when you're not among liberal middle-class university students. <br />
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Likewise, homosexuals experience so much prejudice and discrimination. Wrongly so, true! But nevertheless, it's hard to form public policy using the assumption that you can magically change people's biases. I remember reading a paper suggesting that homosexuals, generally, experienced higher depression rates and higher rates of sexually transmitted diseases. Whilst no moral argument flows from this, these sort of disadvantages make the claim &quot;I'm glad I'm not gay&quot; intelligible. It's harder work not being heterosexual.<br />
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The fact that being homosexual can involve so many negative experiences counts <i>prudentially</i> against it.  That I would not want myself (or others) to be born homosexual can be made intelligible without relying on some dubious moral argument. Legally and morally nothing follows from this - I'm broadly socially liberal in the political sphere, and I would find it hard to justify anything that discriminates based upon somebody's unchosen sexuality. But the thread is simply about philosophical arguments against homosexuality, which can be pulled from the pragmatic domain rather than solely the moral domain.<br />
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You can be legally and politically liberal whilst, privately, accepting socially conservative values for pragmatic reasons (e.g. on homosexuality) or moral reasons (e.g. promiscuity).<br />
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The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.</div>

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The self-sacrificing, hard-working, conscientious, considerate and kind-hearted soul who devotes himself to another female probably deserves to win her affections, but he is not entitled to that love because the woman has the right to choose her own relationships.<br />
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Likewise, a hard-working student deserves good grades but is not entitled to them<br />
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Likewise, a hard-worker deserves a promotion but the employer is entitled to choose the slacker based on, say, his personality or efficiency.<br />
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Likewise, a person who always drives people around deserves to be given a ride when he requests it, but he is not entitled to it.<br />
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However, if a person deserves punishment, we are entitled to give it.<br />
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There are principled ways of distinguishing and justifying desert and entitlement in distinct ways, but I thought I'd just present this objection to the way the question has been framed.<br />
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I won't present my way of classifying entitlements and deserts because it is long-winded and won't be of interest to many people here.</div>

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			<div class="message">I've just finished Pinker's book, I've found it very informative but only a few bits relate directly to what I'm writing about. I've done all my research which includes 14 books and god only knows how many websites but it's actually required that I gather opinions from the public as part of my research, so that's what I'd like here.</div>
			
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</div>Fair enough. My answers to your questions would be:<br />
<ul><li style="">is there a critical period in childhood for language development - definitely yes, but that's because I've read Pinker on 'Genie'.</li><li style="">does language make us human - yes, language is unique to humans. I prefer the opinions of Pinker and Chomsky to those of Savage-Rumbaugh.</li><li style="">can thought exist without language - yes, I believe that natural selection favoured the development of language because it is beneficial for humans to communicate their thoughts to each other (i.e., language came after thought). I also believe that animals are capable of thought, but they don't have language.</li><li style="">can a sense of self exist without language - tentatively yes, depending on what you mean by 'sense of self'.</li></ul></div>

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</div>That's true. I clicked my way onto this topic expecting to see someone arguing just that. :p</div>

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</div>I would. Take Harry Potter for an example: he's fictitious but still conforms to our understanding of what it is to be a human being. When we discuss his actions, we discuss them through the prism of humanity. There'd be nothing wrong with referring to him as a 'fictional person' though you would probably still need the qualifier.</div>

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			<div class="message">I read somewhere that human consciousness is older than earth and its like a light travelling along the universe, and is totally separate from our body i am quite doubtful about if its eternal but can be pretty sure that it exists without brain, mind or ****what physical things. listening to those who shared about their<br />
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</div>My view is that human (and indeed animal more generally) consciousness is an emergent property of brain activity.  No brain, no consciousness.  It follows from this view that 'bubbles' of consciousness are constantly emerging and 'popping' in correspondence with births and deaths.  It's not impossible that there might be 'artificial' consciousness, i.e. consciousness generated mechanically in a suitably complex computer.  Though how far away our species might be from creating such a conasciousness I couldn't guess.<br />
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Of course, it's not easy for people to accept that their consciousness will come to a definite end (when they die), partly because our desire for survival is a long-evolved instinct difficult to get past and partly because we just can't conceptualise our non existence.  Religions and 'spirituality' provide the emotional gaps thus created.</div>

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As for an object, If you put a teddy bear in front of me I would probably think how it is easiest to say it. For example in spanish it would be oso. Much easier than teddy bear so I would probably think of it in the easiest way. If the words are similar like mobile and movil, I would just go with the english version since I have a personal preference for english pronounciation.</div>

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			<div class="message">Totally agree, a.k.a. &quot;Everyone's equal, but some are more equal than others.&quot; It's a good point that nature does dictate survival of the fittest/getting my genes spread etc. which selfishness and greed all play a part in. But if the introduction of technology like brainwashing were put in place to make everyone nice and selfless, what would societal result be? Assume all natural instinct is negated and effectiveness is 100%.</div>
			
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</div>It depends really if it's actually possible to do something that's completely selfless, everything you do is to increase your self-worth, even if you don't know it.<br />
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Although presuming what you're saying is effective, I would probably say it has a much more negative effect - stripping away any form of selfishness and greed wouldn't give anyone a motive to try and push and advance anything. Yeah, everyone would be nice and there might not be as much evil in the world, although it would really just be counter-productive and nothing would ever get done IMO.</div>

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Such ideas are not innate in their complete form, but more like a seed humans (and other animals) are born with, which sprouts and grows when nurtured by experience from the senses. The form of conceptual knowledge which results (such as Epicurus' own philosophical system) is ultimately of pragmatic value to human survival and flourishing only, there is no Platonic sense of Absolute Truth. The objective (or as objective as possible) pursuit of truth is, in the end, pursued for human needs (and those of other species); but human knowledge has no ultimate meaning beyond this.<br />
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While Plato's Theory of Forms is Idealist, Rationalist and Realist; Epicurus' Theory of Anticipations is Materialist and Naturalist. I would also class it as Nominalist, and as broadly compatible with David Hume's form of empiricism.<br />
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The Catholic Encyclopedia's entry on Epicureanism is interesting. It fears that humans are seen as basically not different from other animals: unacceptable to a Catholic, but less of a problem with modern atheism and secular humanism. &quot;The notion [Anticipation] does not appear to differ from the internal sense of a brute, such as enables a dog, for example, to welcome strangers belonging to the profession of his master, and to bark furiously at a beggar that he has never seen before. The understanding, then, does not differ essentially from the internal senses.&quot;</div>

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			<div class="message">I think a good way of putting it would be self confidence is a rational belief in yourself and arrogance is unconditional and irrational. Like patriotism is rational support for your country and nationalism is an irrational and unconditional, maybe? <br />
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</div>Yeah I think you're right. That is a good analogy. I don't think Luis Suarez is a particularly useful example anyway; his line of work doesn't require the sort of moderation and responsibility you need to be successful in other areas. That's where self control would come in handy I guess.</div>

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			<title>Is world running by the collective decisions of all of us?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:31:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<div class="message">I don't believe that the world has yet unified enough to be sent in a single direction but there are certainly regional influences. People as a whole in Europe are fairly liberal and in the USA are fairly right wing and i think policy in these places are being driven by the people so to speak.<br />
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On a spiritual level it may sound silly but in recent years I've come to believe that all living things are linked somehow in some way but we simply lack the ability to comprehend it. Starwars probably gets close to hitting the nail on the head (the first minute or so)...<br />
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I think &quot;more collective&quot; is the wrong term for human development but rather than because we live in a world of grater globalization and transparency that rather than 1 person very quickly you get 3 or 4 geniuses working on the same problem. At any rate the pace of development is increasing substantially.</div>
			
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</div>Man you gotta read zero point field by lynne mctaggart.<br />
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			<title>The meaning of this quote</title>
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			<div class="message">&quot;If you build a home in sand, it'll only wash away&quot;<br />
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It isn't from anyone famous it's just from a song but it feels like it means something more than just lyrics.</div>
			
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</div>Basically the more we collect in our life the more we have to lose. It's kind of a sign we base our life around the wrong things.</div>

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			<title>Are consciousness and free will just an illusion?</title>
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			<title><![CDATA[We think we are promoting an equal society. Are we all just 'racists' though?]]></title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Who's we? If we is the Government, then equal society is a lie designed to promote order. If we is us the tax payer, then equal society will never exist. <br />
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 We're only perceived as racist because we don't communicate. We just see what we see and pass judgement without thought. Ask yourself a question next time you pass judgement on someone: Why are you upset? The answer will not be because of their colour, religion or status in life but merely because their behaviour differing from your own. Be humanist if anything.</div>

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			<div class="message">If you lose parts of your episodic memory, you will probably still remember certain facts, and still have certain emotional attachments.</div>
			
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</div>Very interesting recent article on memory: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/understanding-the-brain-of-a-man-with-no-conscious-memory/" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/...scious-memory/</a><br />
As the title implies, the man had no conscious memory, but did gradually and unconsciously learn things through exact repetition.</div>

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&quot;The comparison of Nietzschean and Platonic Metaphysics in light of Heidegger's claim that &quot;Nietzsche's Philosophy, by his own testimony, is inverted Platonism&quot;<br />
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I studied a module on the theory of knowledge last year at university and I have to say it was really interesting. I can't say i'm very knowledgeable on the works that Wittgenstein did but I remember in class we brushed over his private language argument, it took me a while to fully understand at what he was getting at.</div>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm quite definitely a 'knower'.  I have no interest in letting my ego get in the way of finding truth.</div>

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			<title>We are all just in a really complex computer simulation..</title>
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