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Wa'alaikum Salam

So I don't want to sound creepy or anything xD but are you at uni or college? whatcha studying?

i no i hate that :/

hah thx but new stuff is comin up and not necessarily good stuff :/

Any of these. I don't think you are going to convince me, I have already spent years researching religion and at one point wanted to convert to Islam. Allot of Dawah looks good on the surface, but dig a little deeper and it is not so convincing.

something which would convince me that a god existed. *I didn't think it rude, it always came up in my previous discussions with Muslims*

It is just my opinion. Possibly stemming from my lack of belief due to lack of evidence *sits back and waits for scientific miracles in the Qur'an to come up*

I'll read the article but more importantly the answer to your last question is yes, a synthetic cell has been created in vitro. fully functioning like a normal cell, technically life has been created from non living material.

fair enough, but I still can't believe Allah would desire humans to worship him so badly that hell would be the punishment for not.

Thanks I do understand this concept within Islam, what I was talking about was that despite every child being born Muslim, children born to non-Muslim parents are much more likely to grow up to be non-Muslims, and therefore go to Hell when they die, I would argue that this is unfair.

Paley is the guy who created the analogy of a complex structure being compared to the universe and both leading to god, the guy who talked about the phone is basically using paley's theology but this has been refuted many times, search paley clock on wikipedia there's loads of criticisms that show it to be wrong.

And the answer to question 1 is yes, of all the planets in the universe which is easily 5x10^20 one of the them will form a complex structure be that a phone or something of equivalent complexity, probably more complex things will be formed like the human brain to which the mobile phone is like a toy.

Hi, thanks for your reply. I'll leave the discussion as is, but I just wanted to clear up a couple of missunderstandings: I don't think belief in God is foolish (I don't think I've ever said or implied as such). When I mentioned the "Islamic God", I meant the things about the concept of God that are distinctive to Islam and which an apostate would have abandoned (that Muhammad is his final messenger, the Quran is his word etc.).