RandZul'Zorander (Offline)

How about the simple fact that gays make up a small percentage of the population. I just don't wanna see more homosexuality in our society. Why is that wrong?

Gays cannot have normal relationships. They are less monogamous, more dangerous sexually and a lot of people feel uncomfortable with too much homosexuality in society.

Why are you using Richard Dawkins as an expert. He is just an athiest and hates religion.

I still got time on my hand I suppose.

Okay, firstly I wasn't trying to cover up. I wasn't clear on what I said. When I said homosexuality was harmful, I was referring mostly to anal sex between gay men. Yes, your right that oral sex was the other form that is commonly done between gay men, but they are both commonly done by the majority of gay men.

Yes agree with you there, but like I pointed out, homosexual men are 50 times more likely to get AIDs: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...9/aug/09082609

The above link should also answer your last question.

My friend, you didn't even provide any logic in your answer. I proved that all wrong I direct you back to that post No I wasn't trying to 'cover' it up; otherwise, I would have deleted your message by now.

I do find it funny about how patronising you are Unfortunately, being completely uncivil doesn't exactly help your arguments stand out; on the contrary, it makes you look like a douchebag. You spend more time criticising me personally than criticising my premises; Maybe because you know that I'm right.

I'm done with you

ps I know your going to reply back to this with another patronising post, but rest assured, that I will ignore you

So your debating on religion in ignorance? That will get you far.

That quote you took from the thread, I'll admit I wasn't clear on it. But now you know what I'm saying though, don't you, by looking back at my last message.

Oh so your saying that we evolved from apes then? I have to admit, that would be rather funny. It wasn't part of the question we were discussing; you just bought your personal views into this.

And all the issues you raise are answered in the last message I sent you. It is completely relevant that it is most common amongst gay men. I'm not going to say it again: A majority of gay men do practise anal sex, otherwise they would not be considered a 'high risk' group. Tell me, why are they considered a 'high risk' group? On what evidence? The fact that they engage in anal sex.

Please don't ask me any questions again on gay men and harm. I have answered them all with logic and common sense. What are the statistics implying? Why don't you answer my questions now?

It is confusing as you don't understand the nature of the old testament and the new testament; there origins etc.

That does make it harmful, if they are considered a 'high risk' group. It is considered a 'high risk' group due to the fact that anal sex in commonly engaged in by gay men. Mutual masturbation cannot cause HIV/AIDs.

I don't believe in that view that we evolved from apes, so lets not talk about that. They were designed to produce sperm. Simple.

Yes heterosexual anal sex can cause AIDs/HIV, but it still isn't considered a 'high risk' group. Its is more common with gay men.

You misunderstood me I never said being gay was harmful. I said gay men engaging in anal sex was. And the fact is that the majority of them do, other wise, they would not be considered a 'high risk' group.

Before we continue the debate, please research properly on religion, relating to the old and new testament, as I find you confusing on what you say, regarding that. I don't think you actually know what you're talking about.

Yes, I know that AIDs/HIV can be transmitted by the penis going in the vagina as well. However, I was referring to how one ends up with AIDs in the first place. There is a link between anal sex between gay men and the likelihood of getting AIDs/HIV.

No, the testicles' main function is to produce sperm; lol did I really have to tell you that?

Gay men having sex is harmful, because like I have told you countless times, a majority of gay men engage in anal sex. Anal sex can potentially damage the tissue. On the note I actually studies a case where a few gay men. Anal sex between gay men can potentially cause HIV/AIDs. I have already proved this, by the source I provided. The ource says that gay men are the most likely groups of people to get AIDs/HIV. Another source I came across said that gay/bisexual men are more likely to get AIDs/HIV than any other group.

mm ofcourse there should

its just doing it in a sensitive manner - so for exsample when i ment a person who ideitified as sexually fluid - we were at a big cofee morning casually chatting with about 10 other people... that wouldnt have been the proper time to say: 'so lets have an indpetth look at your sexuality' :P

it would be nice to do at one point though, as I to find it fascinating..

No, I didn't say that; I said it is wrong to interpret the Bible to reflect ones needs. I completely agree that they are open to interpretation. You say you read the whole thread; if you did you would find that I clearly said that.

The Old Testament has been changed, as I said in the thread. Applying your logic, your saying that just because someone says they are a Christian, it means they actually are a Christian. The Old Testament is the unchanged version of God. The New Testament contradicts what the Old Testament says; that goes against God. The Quran is unchanged. The Jewish holy book is unchanged. Its us humans that have grown modern to the Old Testament. Its not that the Old Testament has grown to old for us. Religious scripture are meant to last.

As I said, the penis can go into the anus, but that can cause AIDs/HIV. Its was created to fit in the vagina and to reproduce. Also, why do you think we have testicles?

You are completely missing the point I was trying to make. I said that ta MAJORITY of gay men engage in anal sex. You refer to homosexuality, therefore, including lesbians as well. Look at the statistics; they show they HIV/AIDs is common among gay men. Lesbian's are a different matter

I hope that clears things up now. I addressed all these issues in the thread, which you claim you read in whole. And I never said I was Christian. I'm just interested, in Christianity.

mm no its not objective.. but in LGBT societies (where ive met people like this) - your meant to be all-accepting-encompasing-loving etc... - and questioning the validity of someones identity doesnt always go down to well :P - so ive never had the chance to talk to them about it..

By teaching unwilling kids about homosexual activities. They should be told that homosexuals exist, but no more. Heterosexuality normal and so it is okay for schools to emphasize heterosexuality. Homosexuality is not normal. It goes against natural selection. Gays can't have kids naturally. It's not my choice. I am pretty sure a kid will be fined for not attending a school and so actually homosexuality is forced on them.

It's not complicated. As homosexuality has become more accepted it has become more common too. We can't let things continue like they are.