The Israel-Palestine Conflict Mk.III

don't you dare forget that this is the same america who instigated terrorism on an industrial scale againt the soviet through mass funding and arming of the 'mujahadeen' who teh soviets werte fighting back then. The same usa plays the victim when the 'mujahadeen turned on them', america plots and plans disgusting terrorist acts against anyone who stands up to them, but plays the victim when they get fuked right over. like they say the chicken always comes home to roost, and boy did it roost on american soil in 2001.

Your a bit of a moron if you are trying to compare Iraq to Nazi Germany.

no i am stating two fundamental american lies of modern times you muppet

something which you are keen to quickly sweep under the carpet, bloody you are eager to lick american arse, is it tasty, you want some ketchup with it?

Cba to address these idiotic points as they have nothing to do with really anything. Going to stop replying to you now.

Have a nice life

morals, what morals. If a jew dies at the hands of hamas a palestinian must be killed to restore the universal balance, and when a palestinian dies at the hands of the IDF a jew must be killed to retore the universal balance, its the way of life, deal with it.

don't you dare forget that this is the same america who instigated terrorism on an industrial scale againt the soviet through mass funding and arming of the 'mujahadeen' who teh soviets werte fighting back then. The same usa plays the victim when the 'mujahadeen turned on them', america plots and plans disgusting terrorist acts against anyone who stands up to them, but plays the victim when they get fuked right over. like they say the chicken always comes home to roost, and boy did it roost on american soil in 2001.

The mujahideen have nothing to do with the current situation in Afghanistan if you are referring to that.

And thats exactly why this conflict is never going to end.

oh yes it bloody has everything to do with it, because the taliban and al qaeda are two branches of the mujahadeen yes kid the same mujahadeen which america funded and armed to wage JIHAD against the soviets, yes the same mujahadeen which included the osama bin laden, but hey terrorism against the soiviets suited american interests so america remained quiet, bloody hypocrital bastards, but boy did the chicken come home to roost in style on september 11 2001

The Afghan Mujahideen didn't launch terrorist attacks against the Soviets though

oh yes it bloody has everything to do with it, because the taliban and al qaeda are two branches of the mujahadeen yes kid the same mujahadeen which america funded and armed to wage JIHAD against the soviets, yes the same mujahadeen which included the osama bin laden, but hey terrorism against the soiviets suited american interests so america remained quiet, bloody hypocrital bastards, but boy did the chicken come home to roost in style on september 11 2001

No the taliban and al qaeda are NOT two branches of the mujahideen. USA funded the mujahideen during the soviet era and after the soviets withdrew, America stopped funding them. After the soviets withdrew usa had lost interest in Afghanistan and dirty pakistan seized this opportunity to install their own government into Afghanistan: the Taliban. Those talibs are nothing more than children that lost their parents during the soviet invasion or whose famillies fled to Pakistan during the invasion, where they attended them madrassas and got brainwashed by them dirty pakis. Taliban=Pakistan. When initially the Taliban took control of Afghanistan 20 years ago. only 20% of talibs were Afgan. And how can you say that Al Qaeda branched from the Mujahideen? Can you name me one international incident in which an Afghan was involved? So are you saying that we Afghans are terrorists. It was those Arabs that formed Al Qaeda because they were unhappy with America having bases in the Arabian country. Now they know that no way America is going to remove its bases from places like Saudi Arabia because their government backs it, so they try to scar America whilst they are in Afghanistan, and Afghan civilians are caught in between.

Fairly good summary, I would just add that the U.S. did withdraw its bases from Saudi Arabia in 2003.

"Look at the starvation, the squalor, the humanitarian crisis that is Gaza!"

I was reading Noam Chomsky last night (incidentally the most rational guy on the pro-Palestinian side), and he made a point which felt relevant to what you say about Gaza, its shopping malls/nice restaurants, etc.

He said this in the 90's (in the context of bashing the PLO), and I'm not interested enough to research the current situation in detail, however, I still feel it raises some interesting issues:



A point of my own is that you seem to have totally neglected consideration of why the Palestinians want to project such images (like that in the video). You seem to say 'Palestinians themselves say it's fine in Gaza, so it must be' - this judgement feels overly simplistic. Hamas wants to convince people it's a legitimate government (not a terrorist organisation), so of course it's going to release videos showing development and such; it wouldn't want to play down what is perceived as Israeli aggression. If it wasn't Hamas who released it, I doubt anyone could make such a professional video and release it like that without it going through Hamas beforehand. But for the sake of argument, if it is a random civilian who released the video, why would they? Showing the blockade isn't doing much harm to Gaza makes the blockade more likely to continue, which means Hamas support will continue - Hamas' support has increased since the blockade (as they're probably taking the aid, making the population suffer and blaming Israel's blockade (for their political goals as the resistance-to-Israel movement)). I assume said civilian wouldn't support continuing Hamas rule if they're making a video undermining Hamas' authority as resistance fighters to the evil Israelis (as said video shows the 'evil' Israelis' blockade is not all that bad). The possibilities are interesting to consider.

And sorry to quote you about this, but the issue arose

A third sustained intifada is now needed, the price of statehood is blood and palestinians need to pay that price once and for all.

I am sure you will be on the front line then?