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Is Nottingham really that dangerous?

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Reply 20
Original post by py0alb
Lenton has a deserved reputation for burglary - but it has that reputation not because its full of scallys and gypos, but simply because its full of students who are too lazy and/or stupid to lock their doors when they go to the bag. Most student areas suffer from burglary, because they bring it upon themselves.


Yeah, that's what I was getting at when citing the Rachel Brown and Leeds incidents. Students are rarely victims of serious crime. An exception being the occasional burglary. Students often have high value items (laptops, mp3 players, games consoles) and then go around and leave doors unlocked or windows wide open. Even in Durham, with our low crime rate, we still get the odd stolen laptop because students leave them in full view of open windows. Or leave them unattended in the library :sigh:

PC Rachel Bown was shot in 2005/6 (?) when I was living there. She was actually in Radford, a slightly dodgy area that borders Lenton. To call it Lenton is technically inaccurate, and its certainly not the bit of Lenton where the vast majority of students live (either side of Derby Road).


Yeah, it was early 2006. I just remember it being reported as Lenton by the media. But I suppose you always get confusion about ward boundaries, as they are sometimes difficult to define, and sometimes the media don't know their research.

So what are places like St Ann's like? I've never been there myself but I've heard they have a reputation. But, from what I do know, it doesn't seem too bad. Just parts of an city which has seen some decline with the fall of manufacturing this past generation or two. You get it in every major/industrial city (London, Bristol, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool). But it doesn't make them breeding grounds for gun touting maniacs either....
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If you leave your doors and windows open when you're not at home, you will most likely get burgled. My housemate did, because he was lazy and didn't think to keep his door locked at all. But we called the police, and the burglar was taken to court and sentenced for a whole string of burglaries.

Personally, I've never have a problem, and neither have any of my friends or anyone I know, aside from this housemate (who always was a bit short-sighted when it came to stuff like that). I've never had a gun pointed at me, nor heard of anything like that at all in the time I've been here.

As a student, you don't need to go to the crime-ridden areas, there's nothing there, no takeaways or clubs, just residences. Streets and streets of residences.
The city centre is just like any other city centre you've ever been to.
Reply 22
I live in Nottingham and it's not unsafe at all. The opinion is propagated incorrectly by threads and discussions like this.

I live in Clifton, one of the so-called 'rough areas' and bah it doesn't live up to the reputation. A couple of areas (eg Noble Road) I wouldn't ever, ever go up though (buses stopped going up there because people used to set fire to them...) but I guess you get these kinds of areas in all places.
Reply 23
Only if you dont wear a stab vest.
Reply 24
No.
Reply 25
My sister went there and said she found certain nights quite scary. There was a group ofm kids walking down the road firing fireworks at other groups of people. She was punched in the face one night because some guy was pissed up and indescriminately hitting people. But I mean, those were two instances in 3 years and I dare say if you spent 3 years in parts of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Cardiff, or any other big city for that matter, the same could happen or worse.
Reply 26
At the end of the day it's a big, multicultural city so will get the same kind of violence you see in London, Manchester, etc. It's not any worse. I feel really safe in the city centre because it's actually quite succinct and has brilliant police coverage. Only time I've ever felt unsafe is when I spent my bus fare on shots so I had to walk home. I had to walk through the Meadows at 2 in the morning... I hid my phone down my pants. :p:
Reply 27
I have lived in Nottingham all my life, 17 years in fact, and have never been shot, stabbed, punched :wink:
It is hyped up, like any major town there are problem areas, (the Meadows/St Anns majorly) however it is mainly drug related, if you do not do drugs, owe money for drugs you are most certainly going to be fine.
I have never encountered a problem in Nottingham, I go to college in the city centre, and am not intimidated to walk round the city centre alone at night.
Plus- Nottingham University is amazing- beautiful campus, great reputation.
I have only not applied because I want a change. However, take a quick look on crime watch and look at many of the cases on there- Manchester has experienced a problem with young female students being raped on their way home late at night.
Please do not let the media put you off Nottingham, it is a great city, with great shops, nightlife and people :smile: Gotta big it up it is my home town. :biggrin:
Reply 28
Original post by River85
Yeah, that's what I was getting at when citing the Rachel Brown and Leeds incidents. Students are rarely victims of serious crime. An exception being the occasional burglary. Students often have high value items (laptops, mp3 players, games consoles) and then go around and leave doors unlocked or windows wide open. Even in Durham, with our low crime rate, we still get the odd stolen laptop because students leave them in full view of open windows. Or leave them unattended in the library :sigh:



Yeah, it was early 2006. I just remember it being reported as Lenton by the media. But I suppose you always get confusion about ward boundaries, as they are sometimes difficult to define, and sometimes the media don't know their research.

So what are places like St Ann's like? I've never been there myself but I've heard they have a reputation. But, from what I do know, it doesn't seem too bad. Just parts of an city which has seen some decline with the fall of manufacturing this past generation or two. You get it in every major/industrial city (London, Bristol, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool). But it doesn't make them breeding grounds for gun touting maniacs either....



Radford: a bit rundown, large Asian community, visible prostitute presence even in the day time. I worked there for a while, and one of my mates lived there so I've been in a few pubs. Still a gang area, but you wouldn't know from walking around. Never had any trouble there, in fact I would happily live there. Not as bad as its reputation. Go towards town and Forest Fields and Arboretum are actually very nice, although it still serves as the red light district. Go out towards Basford and its bog standard white working class suburbs for miles on end. But there's nothing wrong with that.

Bestwood/Southglade/Top Valley. Miles away, council estate, used to be the organised crime/BNP area, now not so bad since Colin Gunn got locked up and all the estate pubs got bulldozed. Students have absolutely no reason to go there other than to use the big leisure centre.

St Anns: the most notorious gang area, I've walked through it several times and taken the bus through at night. honestly didn't seem too bad to walk through, although there were lots of crazy people on the bus. Large African-Caribbean community. Don't wear anything in black and white stripes (the radford colours) Neighbouring areas like Sneinton and Mapperley are absolutely fine.

Meadows: large, unpleasant self-contained council estate, surrounded by a mini ring road. Have walked through it to get from town to Bridgford and there were chavs on every corner eyeballing me. Wouldn't recommend walking through it in the dark.
Reply 29
Original post by misostars
However, take a quick look on crime watch and look at many of the cases on there- Manchester has experienced a problem with young female students being raped on their way home late at night.
Please do not let the media put you off Nottingham, it is a great city, with great shops, nightlife and people :smile: Gotta big it up it is my home town. :biggrin:


Yeah, I heard about the Manchester rapings from friends that are at Uni there, we went up there to stay with them and were ordered not to allow the girls drunkenly walk off alone, ha.
I guess it is just media hype and stuff, I mean the active rapists thing seemed like a pretty big thing when I went to Manchester, I was seeing it on Newspapers and stuff, and the accomodation had a police hut set up on it...but when I was there I never felt unsafe.

To the majority of people, once they're in Nottingham, it's no doubt just like being anywhere else.
I think we have established that Nottingham, like any major city, has its ups and downs and all large cities have a certain level of crime.

However, unlike the sleepy towns like York, Bath, Warwick, Durham, St Andrews e.t.c - major cities like Notts, Manchester, London, Birmingham e.t.c, all have immense nightlife and a cosmo feel, with huge ammounts to do and a certain buzz. This is why employers often like grads from city uni's, because they have had more of a 'life experience' and an all round experience (their words not mine).

It is a trade off. I know i prefered going to somewhere with a buzz, and when visiting St Andrews I wanted to end it all rather than go there and be bored for 4 years visiting the same pubs every night and with no night clubs at all.

Plus, city unis (esp Nottingham) are easy to get to and in the middle of the country. Try going backwards and forwards to Durham or St Andrews with all your uni stuff from anywhere south of Oxford.
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Reply 31
Although I agree about Nottingham being as dangerous as any other city, I will offer some advice. I was previously at Warwick Uni and would often think nothing of walking back through Coventry for 40 minutes to get back from the union and never had any problems. I went to a house party in Lenton (a short walk away from where I live) and on my way walking back a guy asked me to empty my pockets and when he saw I didn't have any cash, he escorted me to a cash machine threatening me with a knife and an axe. Thankfully the Police spotted us before we got to the cash machine and anything else happened and the guy is now serving a prison sentence. The reason I made the judgement to walk back was (other than the fact I didn't have any cash for a taxi) that I was under the impression Lenton was relatively safe (from this thread). So yeah, obviously it was a bit of bad welcome to Nottingham for me, but I was a bit stupid. So my advice is, if your walking in Lenton at 3am, go in a big group, watch your back or just be sensible and get a Taxi (which are very cheap in Nottingham, i've noticed).
Reply 32
Strong drug presence
Lots of prostitutes, even during the day time.
Plenty of gangs even in the posh parts.
Reply 33
i live in nottingham and its lovely :smile:
Ive never once felt threatened or scared
sure there's crime, like any other city, but nothing like the horror stories that have been told
i live about 15 mins away from the University of Nottingham so i can safely say there really is nothing to worry about, and im sure its the same with Nottingham Trent,
you get a few dicks but most people are friendly and nice :smile:

im very familiar with Nottingham University (my dad works there, went to a summer school there, got work experience there, and have an offer from there) it's a prety enclosed campus but you wouldn't feel isolated from the rest of the city at all, in fact its about a 10/15 min buss ride from the city centre

Dont worry :smile:
Reply 34
Original post by BenjiiC
Hi! I've applied to Nottingham Uni because I really liked it on the open day, but I have heard some horror stories about going out at the weekend and about the areas where students end up after 1st year :confused:

Is Nottingham really that dangerous? And where are the best and safest areas where most students end up after 1st year?

And one last thing.. As it's a campus uni, do the students end up not feeling a part of the city?

Thank you! :smile:


YES, you will be murdered on arrival... well thats what Y'anne and Conks think anyway.. but they're stuck up. :biggrin: on another note... DUZZZZAAAA <3

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I live in Nottingham and always have done, and honestly, it's nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be! There's crime here, but isn't there everywhere? And yes, there are certain places I'd avoid if I were you, but they aren't really in the city centre, and nowhere near the universities :smile: There are actually some really nice areas as well as the bad ones, and I definitely wouldn't say its worse than any other major city! :smile:
Reply 36
I think someone already mentioned this, but the reputation came about because of a spate of gang-related violence from the 1990s-early 2000s

However, the networks and gangs have now been dismantled.

Now it is like any other large city; Manchester, Birmingham etc

There's this really good book, Hoods by Carl Fellstrom, about the gang and drug problems of the past.

I cannot stress enough that not only have incidents like those of past decades disappeared, during the time it was all about turf wars and control of the drug trade. The violence was targeted at certain people because of turf and personal disputes. It did not spill into your average civilian or student.

If you remove violence of that nature, you will be left with a situation like most large cities.

So to stress once more: The incidents that gave Nottingham its reputation are LONG GONE

Don't let pass issues put you off applying to a top university, in one of Britain's fastest growing and most prosperous cities.

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Here is a quote from a Guardian article about UK gun crime;

'Nottingham is a city that has struggled with a guns label after a number of killings in 2004...but its police chiefs say public perception is at odds with reality because the city witnesses far fewer incidents per resident than other so-called gun hotspots.

Figures show Nottinghamshire Police recorded one firearms-related death in 2006 and none as of August 2007.

Its overall rate of gun crime is only marginally above the national average - and half the rate of Manchester and London''



See, not that bad and bearing in my that recent reports say crime is down considerably in Nottingham since 2007, we can assume that the stats are even lower now.
Reply 38
There's been quite a lot of changes in policing in Nottingham over the past few years: them being more visible, lots of PCSO's, etc. so I expect the crime figures would be even lower today than in 2007.
Nottingham is a nice city, crime is confined to certain area's on the outskirts.

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