Why do so many girls still like Chris Brown?

Well I'm not attracted to hiphop type guys anyway.

Justified in that men are generally bigger and stronger and more violent.

cba with you lol. I don't care about whether it's heartless. I don't like her, my opinion. Now please stop commenting, i'm sure she doesn't need your backing up!! But yeh your very considerate, praise you on that, nice heart (btw im not being sarcsatic)

so it's okay for "hot" people to beat their partners? gold, pure gold.

That's no justification for giving men in abusive relationships less sympathy. Not even close to it, because each situation is different, and abuse can also be emotional and psychological, not only physical.

I was under the impression that we were talking about one violent incident, and in situations like that a 'double standard' exists for good reason.

But didn't I retract the double standard argument in relation to this incident in one of my replies to you? By me saying, "in hindsight I now realise it has (the double standard) no relevance to this incident". So when you continued to mention the double standard I assumed you were referring to it in general and not only in this particular incident.

Just to make it clear, I'm talking about abusive relationships in general at this point in time.

Violent criminals have a high recidivation rate - they dont look for a cure but for a harm reduction. He did not have a quick anger outburst - his outburst was sadistically sustained and prolonged and then she was dumped with no medical help as he took off.

And yes, he (and those like him) need to know that people are disgusted by his behaviour and that society looks down on those that hurt others - that will get through to him a lot more effectively than lets turn our head and walk on egg shells in case he gets angry again (??). His victim is still mentally tortured by "the incident" (as he so casually refers to it) and will probably never be "cured". Wish you had one tenth the empathy you have for him for his victim.

As a strong advocate of the rehabilitative approach to crime reduction I can tell you that you are correct, poor up-bringing may have had an impact, but he would have still known what he was doing was wrong, and still deserves the severe opprobrium that beating your partner in an abusive relationship attracts.

He has every opportunity now to attempt to address his anger issues and try to become a better person, but he should not escape the consequences of his actions that other people in society do.

Say for example you were a teacher, a politician, a policeman, a lawyer or any other normalish professional job, such a criminal conviction would have severe consequences on your professional life, which is a strong aspect of the punitive and retributive aspects of criminal justice.

However as he is a pretty boy singer he was mostly avoided that impact as people have short memories in the face of "celebrity". People can respect cheating wife-beating thuggish footballers/musicians for some reason. That is what I disagree with. I feel he should lose some of the fruits of his capitalist inspired gains because of his misdeeds. A businessman would find people less willing to do business with him because of this, a politician, lawyer, policeman or teacher would be ruined.

Yes he deserves rehabilitation, but he does not deserve to get off scott-free to return to his pre-crime riches and position.

Found out today about his twitter feud with CM Punk - it would be funny if he wasn't such a ****ty human being.



Sorry bud.

*Sighs* Who said I had little empathy for his victim? Where are you getting this information? I really want to know. I do empathise with the Rihanna a lot. I find the people who say she deserved it and those who say they've forgiven him just because he's 'good looking' and a celebrity disgusting. Also, I don't even like Chris Brown as an artist; I prefer Rihanna. I don't even think he is attractive. I really do prefer Rihanna in many ways.

It seems Rihanna isn't that mentally tortured by "the incident" or else she wouldn't have collaborated with him, unless it's some type of therapy. The lyrics in the first song posted on here are really vulgar, and I think I wouldn't want to collaborate with the guy who almost beat me to death in any song, let alone a vulgar one, if I were still mentally tortured by what happened. I'm not saying she isn't mentally tortured, I'm saying it just seems that way.

I do understand how knowing that society is disgusted by you is better than people walking on eggshells around you, but I wouldn't walk on eggshells around him. So, what do you propose society does to him? Hate him until his death? Ah, he's probably going to hit someone again and end up in prison adding an extra person to the already overpopulated prison :/

I was a really bad person when I was younger and now people often call me a good person. There are also people who have physically hurt me, and who also had childhood, that are good people now. If I was really hated by society like Chris, I'd probably be in prison now and wouldn't have got the good GCSEs and A levels that I have. I'm only saying that he may have a chance to change because I know, from personal experience, that people such as abusers can change.




Yes, I agree with you. I really do hate the fact that celebrities can seem to get away with things 'normal' people can't get away with.

Do you think that he doesn't know that he has a problem? Some people deny the fact that they have flaws in their character so do you think that he may be in denial?

Feud?!!? Damn! What was it about?