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Original post by bmqib
Nope, what are the advantages of choosing Imperial over UCL?


Employers prefer IC over UCL. More bankers from IC than UCL. I don't know. IC is better in terms of everything except for the boy:girl ratio imo


Original post by bdfzyt
Hi~
I have a question about the condition of the offer.
My con-offer is A* in math, A * in physics n A in further math.
If I get Math A*,Further Math A*,Physics A,Chemistry A.
Is it possible that I am accepted by the college?
Cheers~!


Yep. Just an extra grade in Chemistry right? No problem. If it's not specified, they don't care.
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Original post by Dark-Myth
Employers prefer IC over UCL. More bankers from IC than UCL. I don't know. IC is better in terms of everything except for the boy:girl ratio imo




Yep. Just an extra grade in Chemistry right? No problem. If it's not specified, they don't care.


not true at all, far more ucl students in banking than from imperial in summer internships, spring weeks etc. leaving no point in firming imperial over ucl for me.
Original post by bmqib
not true at all, far more ucl students in banking than from imperial in summer internships, spring weeks etc. leaving no point in firming imperial over ucl for me.


What about actual job offers? Gimme some stats.
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Original post by Dark-Myth
What about actual job offers? Gimme some stats.


internships lead to full time positions, if imperial students aren't getting as many internships how can they have more job offers?anyway that's not the point and i cba discussing this lol
Original post by vedderfan94
I have a question: With so much to do in a such a thriving city (bars, restaurants, museums, shopping, theatres, clubs, etc), why is there so much complaint on TSR about the social life at Imperial? What exactly is the main problem that many people have with the social life?

I'm finding it really hard to choose between Imperial and Durham. The main downsides for me are the cost and the gender ratio.


You know that the vast majority of negative press about Imperial on this site comes from students who do not study at and have little or no connection with the uni? The only real thing hindering your social life at Imperial is the workload. When you do get a spare day to do something, there is so much to do around London it's unbelievable.



Original post by bmqib
not true at all, far more ucl students in banking than from imperial in summer internships, spring weeks etc. leaving no point in firming imperial over ucl for me.


Okay that's absolutely no problem if you want to firm UCL, you are right to say that UCL is also a fantastic institution.

However your post is ridiculous, firstly UCL is almost twice the size of Imperial so it's a flawed comparison to begin with. And more importantly, where did you get that so-called fact from? Any proof for that (and preferably not some mindless third-party anecdote)?
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Original post by innerhollow
You know that the vast majority of negative press about Imperial on this site comes from students who do not study at and have little or no connection with the uni? The only real thing hindering your social life at Imperial is the workload. When you do get a spare day to do something, there is so much to do around London it's unbelievable.





Okay that's absolutely no problem if you want to firm UCL, you are right to say that UCL is also a fantastic institution and I'm sure you could do very well going there. However this notion that UCL is better than Imperial for banking is absolutely ridiculous.


there are fewer people from imperial in front office banking than UCL, i'm sure imperial has an edge reputation wise, but saying employers prefer icl over ucl is false. it's a level playing field at that level, hence other factors like social life, workload come into play. are you saying imperial is better for banking than ucl?
Original post by bmqib
there are fewer people from imperial in front office banking than UCL, i'm sure imperial has an edge reputation wise, but saying employers prefer icl over ucl is false. it's a level playing field at that level, hence other factors like social life, workload come into play.


Again, where are you getting these "facts" from?

are you saying imperial is better for banking than ucl?


Institutional strength is far from the be-all and end-all. However anyone who knows anything about IB knows that ICL has the edge. Trust me, scores of people from this uni apply to high-end jobs like IB, you do not find that career-driven internship culture at UCL.
Reply 3187
Pretty much everyone i know who is an investment banker. I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to teach me about banking, there's no difference.
I am undecided between UCL (Computer Science International Programme) and Imperial (Computing). I think that I will firm Imperial
I will be firming Imperial. I see some complains about the soscial life and workload at Imperial, but I've always had the belief that you make your own experience at university. If you want to go out, meet people, and have fun, you're in London so thats not a problem. You make what you want of your university experience, wherever!
Original post by Barkziee
I will be firming Imperial. I see some complains about the soscial life and workload at Imperial, but I've always had the belief that you make your own experience at university. If you want to go out, meet people, and have fun, you're in London so thats not a problem. You make what you want of your university experience, wherever!


Yeah you're definitely right, I think if you go in with that attitude you'll be able to have a decent uni experience and get a good degree. I'm very happy with my life at this uni and I'm sure you will be too =]
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Original post by bmqib
Pretty much everyone i know who is an investment banker. I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to teach me about banking, there's no difference.


Look, we could play this anecdote game all day, you know investment bankers, I know investment bankers... it's just pointless. You have no reasonable, acceptable proof that there are more UCL students in IB FO so don't try and pass it off as fact. I admit my statement about Imperial having an edge is also an assertion, and I am willing to say it's all a bit of guesswork; but please just stop pulling facts out of your ass.
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Original post by innerhollow
Look, we could play this anecdote game all day, you know investment bankers, I know investment bankers... it's just pointless. You have no reasonable, acceptable proof that there are more UCL students in IB FO so don't try and pass it off as fact. I admit my statement about Imperial having an edge is also an assertion, and I am willing to say it's all a bit of guesswork; but please just stop pulling facts out of your ass.


Except mine is not an anecdote, it is a fact, and you, who ironically have probably never set foot in a bank would be one of the few who would argue that there are more Imperial grads in fo than UCL. I think you are immature, you probably think saying **** like 'pulling facts out of your ass' makes your opinion more credible. In fact having to put up with higher concentration of people like you was one of the reasons that put me off Imperial.
Original post by innerhollow
Look, we could play this anecdote game all day, you know investment bankers, I know investment bankers... it's just pointless. You have no reasonable, acceptable proof that there are more UCL students in IB FO so don't try and pass it off as fact. I admit my statement about Imperial having an edge is also an assertion, and I am willing to say it's all a bit of guesswork; but please just stop pulling facts out of your ass.


Save it. His loss is our gain.
Original post by Dark-Myth
Save it. His loss is our gain.


Haha yeah true, need to get back to exam revision anyway >_> I'll see you around Wilson if you're here.
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I think this guy is forgetting there are more jobs out there than investment banking. To be honest, it doesn't even make sense to me that someone doing a science subject would want to go into banking. The reason I chose Imperial over UCL when applying was (amongst other reasons) Imperial is a highly respected science specialist university, with really good research AFAIK.
Original post by innerhollow
You know that the vast majority of negative press about Imperial on this site comes from students who do not study at and have little or no connection with the uni? The only real thing hindering your social life at Imperial is the workload. When you do get a spare day to do something, there is so much to do around London it's unbelievable.





Okay that's absolutely no problem if you want to firm UCL, you are right to say that UCL is also a fantastic institution.

However your post is ridiculous, firstly UCL is almost twice the size of Imperial so it's a flawed comparison to begin with. And more importantly, where did you get that so-called fact from? Any proof for that (and preferably not some mindless third-party anecdote)?

How do you find the workload? Although I see that you're studying Chem Eng (so will be more than for Physics) but is it generally manageable?

Also, does the cost of London hinder your student life? When I went for my interview, my interviewer was telling us about the cost and he said that we should expect to need around 10-12k a year to live on. I sent off my student finance application yesterday and the estimates indicate that I will also need some money off my parents as I haven't seen any scholarships that I'm entitled to from Imperial, so I'm a bit worried about struggling financially.
Original post by vedderfan94
How do you find the workload? Although I see that you're studying Chem Eng (so will be more than for Physics) but is it generally manageable?


Physics workload is not that bad, my Physics friends are fairly chilled. When you have a major deadline approaching it can be pretty tough, otherwise it is manageable =]

Also, does the cost of London hinder your student life? When I went for my interview, my interviewer was telling us about the cost and he said that we should expect to need around 10-12k a year to live on. I sent off my student finance application yesterday and the estimates indicate that I will also need some money off my parents as I haven't seen any scholarships that I'm entitled to from Imperial, so I'm a bit worried about struggling financially.


10-12k is quite a lot, I don't think you need to spend that much if you're struggling. If you get cheap accommodation (i.e. cheap hall or shared room) then that will only be about £5000-6000/year. You can get by with about £2000-£3000/year on other living costs (food, transport, entertainment etc.) depending on how conservative you are with money. So really 7-9k should be enough.

So with student loan and a bit of money from mum and dad, you should be fine =]
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Reply 3198
Dark myth specifically talked about investment banking in the original post, noone is forgetting anything. Hardly an advantage when pretty much all top unis have good research, not that it's going to matter to an undergraduate anyway.

Anyway I guess there's really no advantage.
Original post by bmqib
Dark myth specifically talked about investment banking in the original post, noone is forgetting anything. Hardly an advantage when pretty much all top unis have good research, not that it's going to matter to an undergraduate anyway.

Anyway I guess there's really no advantage.


Yeah, there's basically nothing Imperial has over UCL (or vice versa). I'm just going to be firming Imperial over UCL because, well, Imperial is a more "science-specific" university.

If I were going for something like business, management or law, then I would definitely go with UCL. But considering the fact that I am going for Maths and Computing, I'll prefer Imperial.

According to the little research I have done while looking at universities, I just see them both as good universities with great industry links. Obviously, I'll have to work hard for myself in either university: One shouldn't expect to be automatically guaranteed a job after graduating from any university, not even Oxbridge.

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