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I Need Help On Algebraic Fractions!

Heya, im doing a past paper for the exam on Monday, it's a non calculator and I am stuck on a similar sort of question.

3x2+8x3=2\frac{3}{x-2}+\frac{8}{x-3}=2

What I did was:

3(x3)+8(x2)(x2)(x3)=2\frac{3(x-3)+8(x-2)}{(x-2)(x-3)}=2

I multiplied out the numerator and then cross multiplied the denominator onto the other side of the equals sign:

11x25=2×(x2)(x3)11x-25=2\times(x-2)(x-3)
11x25=2(x25x+6)11x-25=2(x^2-5x+6)
11x25=2x210x+1211x-25=2x^2-10x+12
2x221x+37=02x^2-21x+37=0

Here is where i got stuck..
I had to options, either follow what Mathswatch had taught me and rearrange the whole equation to make 0 then factorise or use the quadratic formula..
Since this is a non calculator i attempted the rearranging and factorising:

2x221x+37=02x^2-21x+37=0

I tried the ABC method ( a=2 .. b= -21 .. c= 37)
The rule is A×CA\times C which would in this case =74 = 74
The factors of 74 are : 1 and 74, 2 and 37 and neither of these add or subtract to make B which is -21..

So I'm either lost, over complicating things or completely wrong!
Please, can someone help me?
Original post by Winch2012
Heya, im doing a past paper for the exam on Monday, it's a non calculator and I am stuck on a similar sort of question.

3x2+8x3=2\frac{3}{x-2}+\frac{8}{x-3}=2

What I did was:

3(x3)+8(x2)(x2)(x3)=2\frac{3(x-3)+8(x-2)}{(x-2)(x-3)}=2

I multiplied out the numerator and then cross multiplied the denominator onto the other side of the equals sign:

11x25=2×(x2)(x3)11x-25=2\times(x-2)(x-3)
11x25=2(x25x+6)11x-25=2(x^2-5x+6)
11x25=2x210x+1211x-25=2x^2-10x+12
2x221x+37=02x^2-21x+37=0

Here is where i got stuck..
I had to options, either follow what Mathswatch had taught me and rearrange the whole equation to make 0 then factorise or use the quadratic formula..
Since this is a non calculator i attempted the rearranging and factorising:

2x221x+37=02x^2-21x+37=0

I tried the ABC method ( a=2 .. b= -21 .. c= 37)
The rule is A×CA\times C which would in this case =74 = 74
The factors of 74 are : 1 and 74, 2 and 37 and neither of these add or subtract to make B which is -21..

So I'm either lost, over complicating things or completely wrong!
Please, can someone help me?


I believe you're right - there's no simple solution, and you'd just have to give it in terms of the quadratic formula. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=3%28x-2%29%5E-1+%2B+8%28x-3%29%5E-1+%3D+2
My calculator came out with a solution of 8.26.... so yeah, there's no simple solution :smile:

Edit: Wolfram Alpha - the most amazing maths tool on the internet :biggrin: it's soo good
Original post by Junaid96
I believe you're right - there's no simple solution, and you'd just have to give it in terms of the quadratic formula. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=3%28x-2%29%5E-1+%2B+8%28x-3%29%5E-1+%3D+2
My calculator came out with a solution of 8.26.... so yeah, there's no simple solution :smile:

Edit: Wolfram Alpha - the most amazing maths tool on the internet :biggrin: it's soo good


The question was non-calculator.
Reply 3
Yeah however, the mark scheme says that X = 5 or X = -0.5

The brief explanation is:
M1 for common denominator on LHS or clearing fractions
M1 for multiplying out brackets
A1 for 229x+5=02^2 – 9x + 5 = 0
M1 for (2x ± 1)(x ± 5) or substitution into quadratic formula
A1 for 5 and - 0.5
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 4
Original post by ThatPerson
The question was non-calculator.


True, but that doesn't stop you using the formula:
(21+Sqrt137)/4 or (21-Sqrt137)/4 being the solutions as I get them
Original post by ThatPerson
The question was non-calculator.

Yes, I know. I just used a calculator to confirm my suspicions.

Original post by Icedstoat
True, but that doesn't stop you using the formula:
(21+Sqrt137)/4 or (21-Sqrt137)/4 being the solutions as I get them


Yep, and as I said in my OP, "you'd just have to give it in terms of the quadratic formula"
Original post by Winch2012
Yeah however, the mark scheme says that X = 5 or X = -0.5

The brief explanation is:
M1 for common denominator on LHS or clearing fractions
M1 for multiplying out brackets
A1 for 229x+5=02^2 – 9x + 5 = 0
M1 for (2x ± 1)(x ± 5) or substitution into quadratic formula
A1 for 5 and - 0.5


3x2+8x3=2\frac{3}{x-2}+\frac{8}{x-3}=2 but.. 5 isn't a solution?
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 6
Original post by Junaid96
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Original post by Icedstoat
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Original post by Winch2012
Yeah however, the mark scheme says that X = 5 or X = -0.5

The brief explanation is:
M1 for common denominator on LHS or clearing fractions
M1 for multiplying out brackets
A1 for 229x+5=02^2 – 9x + 5 = 0
M1 for (2x ± 1)(x ± 5) or substitution into quadratic formula
A1 for 5 and - 0.5


Original post by ThatPerson
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There is a typo.

The question should be 3x2+8x+3=2 \displaystyle \frac3{x-2} + \frac8{x+3} = 2

The minus sign should be positive.
Reply 7
OP, if that's the mark scheme, then you've probably misread the question or something.
Reply 8
Original post by Icedstoat
OP, if that's the mark scheme, then you've probably misread the question or something.


See my previous post.
Reply 9
Yeah, I really need to learn to type faster before someone else says what I'm about to say
Reply 10
THANKS SO MUCH!
I literally spent hours on this question !!

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