So I understand that in Rashford (2005), the Court of Appeal decided that it was possible, at least in principle, to plead self defence to a charge of murder.
Then in Clegg, a debate was sparked over whether excessive force causing death should reduce murder to manslaughter.
Does this mean that since Rashford, self defence has been a defence allowing acquittal for murder with 'reasonable force', but since Clegg, people have also wanted it to be defence for murder with 'excessive force', but not one that allows acquittal - just a reduction to manslaughter?