Anders Breivik pleads not guilty. Really?

Taken out of the report which the video uses



The issue here is a socio-economic one, as opposed to a racial/religious one

I'm not saying what he's doing is right, but he has made a pretty good argument for his case. I believe he is fully sane, but not without an extremely rock solid concience in order to demonstrate his beliefs and ideology.

He also did write tens of thousands of words in his essay regarding his plans so I think he's pretty well informed about all this. More than enough time to think through his future actions and potential consequences(and/or benefits!) hence the seemingly controlled emotion in court.

please provide the link to the report and i'll take a look.

oh, i see. so the report blames violent rape on 'socioeconomic' conditions?

why is it that whenever white people are victims of minority crime its always an question of socio economic conditions and not racism and hatred??


norway is a welfare state. the socio economic conditions could not be better. even for the poor. the idea that poverty turns people into violent and racist rapists is just offensive.


i'm sick and tired of hearing these pathetic excuses for blatant anti white racism and violence.

norway opened ups its arm to these immigrants, and this is how they repay the norwegian women?


its sick.

why is it that whenever white people are victims of minority crime its always an question of socio economic conditions and not racism and hatred??

oh, i see. so the report blames violent rape on 'socioeconomic' conditions?

why is it that whenever white people are victims of minority crime its always an question of socio economic conditions and not racism and hatred??


norway is a welfare state. the socio economic conditions could not be better. even for the poor. the idea that poverty turns people into violent and racist rapists is just offensive.


i'm sick and tired of hearing these pathetic excuses for blatant anti white racism and violence.

norway opened ups its arm to these immigrants, and this is how they repay the norwegian women?


its sick.

the idea that poverty turns people into violent and racist rapists is just offensive.

oh, i see. so the report blames violent rape on 'socioeconomic' conditions?

why is it that whenever white people are victims of minority crime its always an question of socio economic conditions and not racism and hatred??

Personally, extremism is extremism - whether left or right wing. But I see your point

Here's a link to the one that I article that I used
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2011/6/20/pat-condell-claims-all-rapists-in-oslo-are-muslim-immigrants.html

And here's another report which also explains the figures

http://electronicintifada.net/blog/ali-abunimah/debunked-zionist-and-islamophobic-libel-rape-epidemic-muslims-norway

If you think a 16-17-18 year old is a child then you need to stop being a manchild.

They were involved in activities with a political organisation. Politics is about controlling other people. I think it's pretty clear they had an agenda and thought they were invulnerable whilst influencing their society in an evil manner by supporting migration of islamists.

colonialism is not the same colonisation.


in 1947 the year before the floodgates were opened, britain was a racially homogenous society. it was 99.99999% ethnic european -- or white. 60 years later its down to less than 90%.

the projections are britain will become majority non european around 2066 -- but even if it takes a few more decades it will still be crime against humanity if it happens.

i say this as someone of mixed heritage myself. i want europe to remain european. if i wanted to live in a non european nation i would move there. i do not want to turn britain into a non european nation just for the benefit of immigrants. it is racist to suggest that europeans should not worry about their own ethnic and cultural dispossession.

You are wrong to say they are innocent. These were people at a party political event. Politics is about control. I don't really consider their age to be that relevant either.

These people were legitimate targets in a war over the future of society.

He isn't insane either, having a killing instinct isn't the same as insanity. I don't agree with him, but attempting to label him as mentally ill is reminsicent of soviet tactics against dissidents.

ok, thanks for the links. they seem to want to fudge the stats to make it clear that its nothing to do with muslims. i'm not concerned about the religious origins of the rapists, just the fact that non western rapists are targeting european women for rape.

the figures are very clear, those identified are all of non western appearance. they could be european passport holders. but the fact remains that they are non western in appearance.


these links admit that almost 50% of rapes are committed by people of non western (white ) descent.

the non white population of norway is not even close to 50% at this point.


its amazing that ethnic minorities always complain about 'racism', but they do not want to own up to their own forms of violence, which is worse than racism.

these stats are simply outrageous. how can 'non whites' have the cheek to complain about racism when this sort of thing is going on!!

Any evidence ? Where are you living ? You can't be living in Europe, otherwise you wouldn't have just asked that question.
If you are, then I seriously worry about your perception skills. Look around you, open your eyes!

It is not an idea, it is a fact borne out by extensive evidence that people on the lowest socio-economic end are far more likely to engage in criminal activities, including violent crimes like rape. Let me point out, this is an OFFICIAL 88 page report which made this assertion, not a random poster on a student website. If you really want to refute that their statistics are WRONG, then I suggest you find some information of your own to back up your claim.

i may have pointed this out before, but i am a recovering marxist. so i know marxist waffle when i hear it.


instead of reading this 88 page social science marxist waffle, please just tell me how being poor turns a person into a violent rapist?

virtually ALL poor people and not violent rapists. so whats the link exactly?

It wasn't 88 page social science marxist waffle WHEN YOU AGREED WITH IT.

My I also point out that YOU were the one who introduced the youtube video which (misleadingly) quoted from said same report.

However, now that you have found out that it does not agree with certain of your points, you have now disowned said same report which YOU were responsible for introducing.

I think the waffler here is you. If you want to argue about poverty and crime (personally, you have to be daft to NOT know that there is a link between poverty and crime, particularly violent ones) then I suggest you start another thread. I won't argue with someone who uses a report to prove their point, and then when the said same report disagrees with their views, suddenly disown it.