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If Israel nuked Iran

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Original post by 122025278
I disagree almost totally.

Yes Iran can retaliate, but if they retaliate against Israeli population centres in response to a small tactical strike by the Israeli's then to me all bets should be off. Israel should be able to strike in full, with all of its nuclear arsenal at Iran.


small tactical strikes? you do realise that nuclear facilities cannot be easily destroyed by small scale attacks. Take into account that there are numerous facilities all over the country, not just in one part of the country.

Iran would choose to attack only in population centres, they have an organised army, that may choose to invade Israel. The fact is you don't know how Iran would choose to retaliate, you just want Israel to provoke them and cause a needless war.
Original post by ras90
it has been shown many times that the type of uraniam Iran is producing is not suitable for Nuclear power (otherwords used for bombs).


source please.
Original post by getfunky!
You're right, they aren't lollipops. Hence, why nations must sign up to NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty) of nuclear weapons. Which Iran has done. However, other countries such as Israel, India and Pakistan have admitted to owning nuclear weapons but have NOT signed the aforementioned treaty.

To make matters worse Israel also forbid any inspections to take place of their nuclear weapons. Whereas Iran has allowed the IAEA to inspect their facilities many times and have co-operated with them. The IAEA has found no real evidence to suggest that they are producing nuclear weapons. Only conjecture has been mentioned.


Israel have never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, they are currently keeping their policy of strategic ambiguity when it comes to their nukes.

Also it would be near moronic for Israel to allow IAEA inspectors anywhere near their facilities, chances are they have developed warheads and tech which no one else has and they have no way of ensuring that R&D doesn't get out after the inspection.
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Original post by getfunky!
small tactical strikes? you do realise that nuclear facilities cannot be easily destroyed by small scale attacks. Take into account that there are numerous facilities all over the country, not just in one part of the country.

Iran would choose to attack only in population centres, they have an organised army, that may choose to invade Israel. The fact is you don't know how Iran would choose to retaliate, you just want Israel to provoke them and cause a needless war.


Iran lol. It's army is clapped out. Full of old Soviet **** hahah. The Israeli equipment is light years ahead.
Original post by 122025278
Of course they are, they are living next to an unelected theocracy that funds and supports terrorists.

It'll never happen but the UK should help Israel in any way they can if they do attack. Provide air cover with our navy for example, in case the Iranian's try and retaliate.


1. They do, in theory, have a democratic system- one in which Ahmadinejad was acknowledged to win. It's not a working democracy in the slightest, but it certainly isn't a theocracy.

2. Israel has Mossad- a group that justifies attacks in what would conventionally be called 'terrorism'- yet this goes realtively unnoticed in the western world.

3. Khameini has already said that it is unlikely that Iran would launch a pre-emptive strike on Israel, and Khameini tends to have more power than Ahmadinejad.
Someone should disarm Israel. They are the biggest instigators of world instability anyway. We all know that but refuse to admit it. No BBC report will ever question how Israel obtained it's illegal nukes but they love to stir the pot when it comes to foreigners (Iran, North Korea-- incidentally they have nukes and it's 2012 without the world ending, as we were told).
israel should nuke itself .. :pal:
If Israel nuked Iran there would be catastrophic civilian casualties. Almost all countries of the world will be disgusted at Israel and anyone who supports it.
Original post by Aj12
Nuclear weapons aren't lollipops to be handed out to every country that cries because the kid down the block has one.


I know but why should America be the one who "hands them out"? They aren't handed out they are produced by the countries which means every country is in the same position and so should have the same rights. Its just like it would not be fair if Iran was allowed no form of national defence.
Original post by internetguru
If Israel nuked Iran there would be catastrophic civilian casualties. Almost all countries of the world will be disgusted at Israel and anyone who supports it.


There wouldn't be that many, Irans nuclear plants aren't in populated areas.
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no country in the world can ever justify nuking another country, unless already at war, and the effect of the attack ends the war, before it drags onto me more of a bloody war than a nuke attack does. (and even still not fully justified) too many civilian casualties.

I am all for a naval task force to be positioned off the coast of iran, attacking all nuclear facility's with pave-ways in the south, while Israel attacks all facilities in the north.

but ofc this is not going to happen, Iran does not have amazing defense's and something about the people of the country believe they do... a UN group could wipe up no problem, however not without loses themselves, hense the reason that this will not happen.

however I believe iran is making the bomb. no matter who says it, I also believe there are other countrys who are making it in secret.
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Original post by DJkG.1
Israel is not justified.

Period.

Everything it does, even prima facie benevolent, is misbegotten.


no your right, it should be a desert run by thugs who mass murder their own people, to fit in with its neighbours:smile:
Original post by Sternumator
There wouldn't be that many, Irans nuclear plants aren't in populated areas.


This thread is based on the premise that Iran has developed nuclear weapons. To keep nuclear weapons at a nuclear power plant would be idiotic.
Original post by Darth Stewie
Israel have never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, they are currently keeping their policy of strategic ambiguity when it comes to their nukes.

Also it would be near moronic for Israel to allow IAEA inspectors anywhere near their facilities, chances are they have developed warheads and tech which no one else has and they have no way of ensuring that R&D doesn't get out after the inspection.


That's a fair point, however any issue related to nuclear weapons must be treated seriously. If Israel has nuclear weapons then it is imperative to the international community to know whether they have them or not.

Of course, any country would not want their R&D and intelligence to be leaked out to the rest of the world. But this isn't a case of protecting their "copyrights" or work, it's a matter of international security. Case in point, few have suggested that Iran may be developing nuclear weapons. Yet it is treated as a very serious matter under scrutiny.
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Original post by internetguru
If Israel nuked Iran there would be catastrophic civilian casualties. Almost all countries of the world will be disgusted at Israel and anyone who supports it.


no, most would be happy. especially sunni saudi arabia.
they bomb who they want!
they bomb who they want!
they bomb who they waaannnntt!!!!!!!
israel can bomb who they want!


:rofl:, they should chant that whenever their football team plays
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Original post by getfunky!
That's a fair point, however any issue related to nuclear weapons must be treated seriously. If Israel has nuclear weapons then it is imperative to the international community to know whether they have them or not.

Of course, any country would not want their R&D and intelligence to be leaked out to the rest of the world. But this isn't a case of protecting their "copyrights" or work, it's a matter of international security. Case in point, few have suggested that Iran may be developing nuclear weapons. Yet it is treated as a very serious matter under scrutiny.


Are you some Patsy for the regime in Tehran lol.

Iran would be walked over by Israel especially if the US joined in. Israel should arm the democracy groups in Iran and start a civil war there like we did with Libya that'd be better. Overthrow the unelected criminals at the top.
Its all so petty and ridiculous. When will nation-states get passed trying to **** the world over with their huge egos and bombs and concentrate on international conciliation?
Original post by DJkG.1
Israel is not justified.

Period.

Everything it does, even prima facie benevolent, is misbegotten.



I love your sig ,May their souls rest in peace ,i wonder how TSR didn't ban you?
Original post by 122025278
Are you some Patsy for the regime in Tehran lol.

Iran would be walked over by Israel especially if the US joined in. Israel should arm the democracy groups in Iran and start a civil war there like we did with Libya that'd be better. Overthrow the unelected criminals at the top.


Iran's political system is a unique mix of theocracy and democracy. The government has been elected.

the US has repeatedly warned Israel not to attack Iran. This isn't the same as Libya, you're mixing civil war with international war. A large majority of Libyans civilians were asking for the international community to assist them.

This situation is an accusation of Iran producing nuclear weapons, and supporting the notion that a pre-emptive strike would be justified despite not having strong evidence to support the attack.

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