Lazy people annoy me

Nah. I have no desire to get ripped thank you. My body is quite adequate as it is. My exercise consists of aerobic exercise in the outdoors; I do a lot of cycling because it's something I find enjoyable. Consequently I'm quite physically fit.

However, my upper body strength is probably below average - which isn't something I care about really. Doesn't matter. I'm in good physical shape from the enjoyable aerobic exercise I do. Why anyone would do anaerobic weight training because they actually enjoy it is beyond me; I would imagine that a large proportion of guys who do weight training do it because they're douches who just want to attract shallow, superficial, skanky girls who are turned on by large biceps and little else.

Did you enjoy it when your ring was getting destroyed, brah?

live and let live and let people do their own thing?

Nah. I have no desire to get ripped thank you. My body is quite adequate as it is. My exercise consists of aerobic exercise in the outdoors; I do a lot of cycling because it's something I find enjoyable. Consequently I'm quite physically fit.

However, my upper body strength is probably below average - which isn't something I care about really. Doesn't matter. I'm in good physical shape from the enjoyable aerobic exercise I do. Why anyone would do anaerobic weight training because they actually enjoy it is beyond me; I would imagine that a large proportion of guys who do weight training do it because they're douches who just want to attract shallow, superficial, skanky girls who are turned on by large biceps and little else.

Nah. I have no desire to get ripped thank you. My body is quite adequate as it is. My exercise consists of aerobic exercise in the outdoors; I do a lot of cycling because it's something I find enjoyable. Consequently I'm quite physically fit.

However, my upper body strength is probably below average - which isn't something I care about really. Doesn't matter. I'm in good physical shape from the enjoyable aerobic exercise I do. Why anyone would do anaerobic weight training because they actually enjoy it is beyond me; I would imagine that a large proportion of guys who do weight training do it because they're douches who just want to attract shallow, superficial, skanky girls who are turned on by large biceps and little else.

In answer to the title of this thread, you should take your own advice...

Way to miss an extraordinarily simple point.

"Why can't they just live and let live and let people do their own thing?" - telling people to do something isn't the only way that somebody can go against this principle. There are lots of other ways, such as creating a thread outlining how non-gym-goers are less useful than gym-goers.

Not everyone does regular exercise, not everyone sticks to a macrobiotic diet, and not everyone is toned, ripped and a size 8.

But if they're not morbidly obese and costing the NHS millions of pounds a year for treatment for CHD, diabetes, etc, then why does it bother you so much?

I think maybe you should get off your high horse... I get sick of fitness buffs who think they're better than everyone.

There's absolutely no call for people who choose not to do a lot of exercise too look down on those who do, but at the same time there's no call for those who do a lot of exercise to consider themselves superior to people who choose to focus their efforts on different things.

As you say, live and let live - don't try to convince yourself you're "more useful" than someone because you spend more time in the gym.

None of these people lift/exercise, I'll wager.

I lift - pretty seriously, in the past, though less so now. I've represented my university in powerlifting, though the level of competition wasn't exactly elite.

I lift - pretty seriously, in the past, though less so now. I've represented my university in powerlifting, though the level of competition wasn't exactly elite.

It just happens that, whilst I enjoy my hobby, I appreciate that many others don't want to lift and I don't think they're lesser people for that. People have different interests. If you want people to respect the interests you have (as it seems in the original post you're annoyed by the lack of respect you receive) then you need to respect the people who don't share that interest.

In fact the "I bet you don't lift" attitude towards anyone who doesn't support your view entirely is precisely analogous to the "I bet you're shallow and insecure" attitude some have towards anyone who does lift. It's all about making entirely unnecessary personal digs at people who don't share your views in order to feel better about yourself.

Ok first of all...I'm fully aware that not everyone in the world is interested in "building muscle", "increasing VO2 max", "getting ripped" or whatever other fitness goals there is out there. It just so happens that we live in a world where there is much to do, and many things to take interest in and there is limited time to do it in.

Perhaps you should've spent less time lifting and more time learning how to read, brah.

None of these people lift/exercise, I'll wager.

Wrong.

And, assuming that you've made progress since lifting/exercising, have you noticed any changes in yourself?

Yep. Firmer all round. Developing nice biceps, bum's tauter.

Anyway, I respect people who work really hard to get a physique and what-have-you. But personally I'd rather have a lot of knowledge than muscles, which, face it, is more important in today's society. Then again I'm a geek so I'm likely biased.