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Queen Meets Ex- IRA Commander

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Reply 80
Original post by kingsholmmad
In what way am I trying to "twist" your words? I merely quoted what you said. In fact, you even went so far as to specify who you want vegence upon:

"Those who helped them". There is no way that you can suggest that that isn't going to include a lot of wives and girlfriends, mothers and daughters that you want to see suffer.


Surely the best justice you can offer to this and subsequent generations is the guarantee of peace. I ask you again: How is your attitude going to get anybody anywhere closer to peace?


Aw you did though. You tried to make out tgat I was talking about innocent loyalists.

I mean, those who work on the army and RUC bases and help them to function properly.

Peace for peaces sake? No I don't think so.
My goal is a 32 county socialist republic, nothing less. As one victim said yesterday, their can be no peace of justice while Britain occupies this land.
Reply 81
Yesterday, Families of those killed and People injured by the British state Marched in Belfast with hundreds of supported. They loudly told Marty McGuinness what they thought of his decision!

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Reply 82
Original post by IRSP044
Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant then?


Feel free to point out the falsities then?
Reply 83
Original post by IRSP044
Traitors to what?


Er... the law of treason, obviously. :s-smilie:
Original post by IRSP044


Peace for peaces sake? No I don't think so.
My goal is a 32 county socialist republic, nothing less. As one victim said yesterday, their can be no peace of justice while Britain occupies this land.


Every opinion poll I have ever seen says that the people of NI want to remain apart of Britain. Hardly an occupation.
Original post by DaveSmith99
Every opinion poll I have ever seen says that the people of NI want to remain apart of Britain. Hardly an occupation.


They know nothing different. If these 'polls' where taken in the six counties before Britain announced occupation i'm sure it would be a very different results.
Original post by ALazyThracian
They know nothing different. If these 'polls' where taken in the six counties before Britain announced occupation i'm sure it would be a very different results.


How is it occupation when most of the population want to be part of Britain?
Reply 87
Original post by L i b
Er... the law of treason, obviously. :s-smilie:


What/who have we betrayed? Who/what have we committed treason against?>
Reply 88
Original post by Clens
Feel free to point out the falsities then?


I'm sure you can go and research it yourself. I won't be wasting my time correcting you. I am bored doing it now.
Reply 89
Original post by DaveSmith99
Every opinion poll I have ever seen says that the people of NI want to remain apart of Britain. Hardly an occupation.


I don't support gerrymandering? Do you?
Original post by IRSP044
I don't support gerrymandering? Do you?


What does gerrymandering have to do with the public opinion being that NI should remain apart of GB?
Reply 91
Original post by DaveSmith99
What does gerrymandering have to do with the public opinion being that NI should remain apart of GB?


That so called public opinion doesn't include 26 of Ireland's 32 counties.
Original post by IRSP044
That so called public opinion doesn't include 26 of Ireland's 32 counties.


So, Scotland are calling for a referendum on independence, should this referendum be a Scottish referendum or a British one? If voters in Scotland say they want independence, but the voters in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland vote against independence, should the Scots be denied independence because of this? That sounds more like an occupation to me.
Reply 93
Original post by DaveSmith99
So, Scotland are calling for a referendum on independence, should this referendum be a Scottish referendum or a British one? If voters in Scotland say they want independence, but the voters in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland vote against independence, should the Scots be denied independence because of this? That sounds more like an occupation to me.


Lol. That is a totally different situation.
Original post by DaveSmith99
How is it occupation when most of the population want to be part of Britain?


When a country invades another country sets up a goverment state, its an occupation. It wasn't yet known as "Britian" though but over time i turned into the empire we all know. So lets face face it the irish have known British occupiers for 800+ years they don't know much better.

So yes the north have a right to be a part of the U.K but if this choice was given when the south was given back i believe people would have voted for a united Ireland.
Reply 95
Original post by ALazyThracian
When a country invades another country sets up a goverment state, its an occupation. It wasn't yet known as "Britian" though but over time i turned into the empire we all know. So lets face face it the irish have known British occupiers for 800+ years they don't know much better.

So yes the north have a right to be a part of the U.K but if this choice was given when the south was given back i believe people would have voted for a united Ireland.


The majority of people in the partitioned 6 counties voting yes would be because of the thousands of Scots and English sent over to here to "rule" us. Their ancestors now have a strong unionist tradition just as the Brits planned. This makes the majority vote illigitimate.
The people of NI want to be part of Britain, NI has its own parliament, and it has representation in Westminster. Just because a very vocal minority don't want to be part of Britain does not make it an occupation.
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Reply 97
Original post by IRSP044
The majority of people in the partitioned 6 counties voting yes would be because of the thousands of Scots and English sent over to here to "rule" us. Their ancestors now have a strong unionist tradition just as the Brits planned. This makes the majority vote illigitimate.


It is legitimate. These people are legitimate inhabitants of Ireland. I believe the long term future of Northern Ireland is as part of the Republic, but it is going to be a long process. We don't need radicalism and all of that like you seem to want.
Reply 98
My view, it took Sinn Fein ****ing long enough.
Reply 99
Original post by Negaduck
My view, it took Sinn Fein ****ing long enough.


Next up. Paisley has an audience with the Pope.

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