Harvard

Also, what the hell were you drinking; since WHEN has $40k equalled £17k?

You'd probably graduate with £100k+ debt from Harvard.

i realised my mistake but i never got around to changing it. and yeah, maybe £100k debts OVERALL, not PER YEAR as the other guy was suggesting.

Actually, it's a lot harder to get into Harvard/Yale than into Oxbridge. Because at the Ivies, they look at your extra-circulars beside your academic achievements. It's really a pain-in-the-ass. However, you have a good chance of getting into Oxbridge with AAA, but even a 2400/2400 in SAT can't guarantee you admission into the Ivies. And before anyone starts ranting the SATs, I've done A-levels and SATs myself, the SAT English is particularly very hard. Otherwise it's a joke.

Actually, it's a lot harder to get into Harvard/Yale than into Oxbridge. Because at the Ivies, they look at your extra-circulars beside your academic achievements. It's really a pain-in-the-ass. However, you have a good chance of getting into Oxbridge with AAA, but even a 2400/2400 in SAT can't guarantee you admission into the Ivies. And before anyone starts ranting the SATs, I've done A-levels and SATs myself, the SAT English is particularly very hard. Otherwise it's a joke.

Most of that aid does consist of loans though.

I must admit that Cambridge does have a better mathematic programme, but the same cannot be said for the other scences, with many at Cmabridge opeenly admitting on TSR that the courses at Oxford (chem, the bio (multiple subsets) and physics), are much better in Oxford than Cambridge.

Uhhh, you don't have a good chance of getting into Oxbridge with just AAA. A good look at the admissions procedure will make that abundantly clear.

As someone pointed out before; if you're schooled in the US system getting into HYPSM is easier; if you're schooled in the UK system, getting into Oxbridge is easier. Oxbridge's admissions process has a much more academic slant; and nothing in the Harvard admissions process really compares to the rigour of a good Oxbridge interview.

If you didn't know, international students who get accepted into Oxbridge are rarely interviewed. And that's a lot.

well it's much easier, SATs are easier than A levels, the americans emphasise the need for EC.

It's harder if you're already doing A levels as you have to revise for SATs, but if you're doing SATs much easier.

HAHA, SAT's are not the A level equivalent! Its just a entrance exam like the GMAT or the LSAT. Americans must deal with AP exams, the equivalent of A levels, though imo a little harder because it all comes down to the exam not much course work.

Harvard is much, much harder to get into. The academic profiles of those who have been accepted, that I have seen, are ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, top of the class since before they could spell university. Oxbridge offers are pretty sad tbh, you can get away with more A's than A*'s and still limp away with an offer. The EC's that you need to get into Harvard, Yale and the like are coupling a sublime academic record. Oxbridge it seems to not care for EC's and seem to be lowering standards. Plus there is the whole issue of different courses being harder to get into, not every course is as hard to get into as PPE.

Furthermore, Harvard has many many more applicants, the internationals are now more than ever making a difference in acceptances. This is because the do quota internationals, or at least they used to up until recently, so it is even more competitive considering only the highest caliber of students from the most prestigious schools abroad apply there.

Acceptance rate Harvard = 7-8%

Oxbridge in general is 20-25% i think? (not certain on this one)

I know a lot of American Ivy leagures who would not cope at Oxbridge.

lol

i hear this a lot.

basically, it all depends on where you live.

if you have been brought up in the uk system, oxbridge is a lot easier.

if you have been brought up in the us system, harvard is a lot easier.

its because the unis are TOTALLY different. could write pages on the differences, and basically, the uk system gears you to get into oxbridge, and vice versa, making it very hard to get into the overseas equivalent.

also, as far as undergrad goes, you cant beat cambridge in general. its postgrad where harvard wins. you cant beat the job prospects at harvard either. but cambridge is more academic.

I'd imagine Harvard would be far, far harder to get into.

1) Best university in the world and can afford to turn away anyone less than brilliant

2) Pay equal attention to extra-curricular activities in keeping with the whole american 'leaders of tomorrow' shtick

3) Have a damn fine reputation to uphold and don't want anyone with any kind of blemishes

4) Have a truly global prestige and can pick and choose from anyone, anywhere

Isn't it something ridiculous like 40 applicants per place?

I'd imagine Harvard would be far, far harder to get into

Isn't it something ridiculous like 40 applicants per place?

Same; a great deal of them are monkeys, and certainly not in there because of academic merit, despite their performance on the ironically named 'scholastic aptitude test.'

MIT people on the other hand, are a very different matter. The exchange students I met made Cambridgians look like party animals rather than losers, like slouches rather than academic gimps. Truly atrocious people. Some of the absolute G-I-M-P-S that I met from MIT, second year at Cambridge, were on a year abroad that didn't even ******* count for anything, essentially, and still shut themselves up in their rooms desperately studying, rather than enjoying the experience, probably chomping down on the anti-alzheimers and narcolepsy drugs that they are so fond of during term time at their own institution. One asked me if I knew where I could procure some, megalolz.

Same; a great deal of them are monkeys, and certainly not in there because of academic merit, despite their performance on the ironically named 'scholastic aptitude test.'

MIT people on the other hand, are a very different matter. The exchange students I met made Cambridgians look like party animals rather than losers, like slouches rather than academic gimps. Truly atrocious people. Some of the absolute G-I-M-P-S that I met from MIT, second year at Cambridge, were on a year abroad that didn't even ******* count for anything, essentially, and still shut themselves up in their rooms desperately studying, rather than enjoying the experience, probably chomping down on the anti-alzheimers and narcolepsy drugs that they are so fond of during term time at their own institution. One asked me if I knew where I could procure some, megalolz.

OMG, are you serious?!

HAHA, SAT's are not the A level equivalent! Its just a entrance exam like the GMAT or the LSAT. Americans must deal with AP exams, the equivalent of A levels, though imo a little harder because it all comes down to the exam not much course work.

Harvard is much, much harder to get into. The academic profiles of those who have been accepted, that I have seen, are ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, top of the class since before they could spell university. Oxbridge offers are pretty sad tbh, you can get away with more A's than A*'s and still limp away with an offer. The EC's that you need to get into Harvard, Yale and the like are coupling a sublime academic record. Oxbridge it seems to not care for EC's and seem to be lowering standards. Plus there is the whole issue of different courses being harder to get into, not every course is as hard to get into as PPE.

Furthermore, Harvard has many many more applicants, the internationals are now more than ever making a difference in acceptances. This is because the do quota internationals, or at least they used to up until recently, so it is even more competitive considering only the highest caliber of students from the most prestigious schools abroad apply there.

Acceptance rate Harvard = 7-8%

Oxbridge in general is 20-25% i think? (not certain on this one)