It's very easy to slander a person when you have no knowledge on them or their teachings. If, Muhammad, was indeed all those things people claim him to be, then would Islam be the fastest growing religion in the world? Can over one billion people be wrong?
First of all, what evidence is there that Muhammad was a torturer or a rapist?
As with regards to Muhammad marrying Ayesha when she was 9. These are false claims which unfortunately, have been spread around by muslims who believe it. NOWHERE in the Quran does it mention this and I have yet to see an authentic hadith that proves that Ayesha was 9 at the time of her marriage to Muhammad.
Yes, she was a young girl when she got married. But not an infant.
Well, obviously they can. There are over a billion Muslims in the world, and there are over a billion Christians in the world. At least one of these groups has got it wrong.
Well, obviously they can. There are over a billion Muslims in the world, and there are over a billion Christians in the world. At least one of these groups has got it wrong.
Well, obviously they can. There are over a billion Muslims in the world, and there are over a billion Christians in the world. At least one of these groups has got it wrong.
Not really, Christianity and Islam along with Judaism share alot in common, they are all abrahamic religions who share prophets the same prophets. Islam came as a religion to confirm the two religions before it, therefore we believe that Islam is the complete and final way of life and thus look to the Quran for guidance. This is because the previous scriptures, Bible & Torah have been fabricated over time by man which is why Christianity & Judaism today are not completely correct in their teachings e.g. the trinity.
Not really, Christianity and Islam along with Judaism share alot in common, they are all abrahamic religions who share prophets the same prophets. Islam came as a religion to confirm the two religions before it, therefore we believe that Islam is the complete and final way of life and thus look to the Quran for guidance. This is because the previous scriptures, Bible & Torah have been fabricated over time by man which is why Christianity & Judaism today are not completely correct in their teachings e.g. the trinity.
So, going back to the statement the Jhs08 said, which is that one of the two large faiths today have got it wrong, you obviously believe this as well from your response.
Did you read my post? Either Jesus is God or he isn't. If he is then the billion+ Muslims have got it wrong. If he isn't then the billion+ Christians have got it wrong. This is an obviously true statement.
The rest of your post seems to be entirely irrelevant..
Actually I have no idea whether Muhammad had sex with a nine year old or not. Some Muslims on this thread are saying that he did. They are saying 'Yes Muhammad had sex with a child, but that can be justified because of X'. All my comments have been directed towards those people, and how sickening that view is.
ah... and how do you know that these people are muslims and not some islamists who want to spread lies?
There is no point arguing with Muslims. For you to change your view and admit your precious profit was a paedophile would mean to leave your religion and I understand that your family will probably kill you (afterall the Quaran does tell them to, how kind of it). Have fun following your cult gone wrong, headed by a skitzophrenic paedophile murderer.
... the way your posts sound... is just like reading something written by a person sitting in a dark room, not willing to open the blinds just because he doesn't want to see the ' light'
I have already addressed your ridiculous excuse of tribes; he married her at age 6 and decided she wasn't ready (at least that's what he said), so he could have waited longer and still had the strengthend relations. I think 12 would have been much more acceptable, but 6 to marry and 9 to have sex is bloody ridiculous. Ask anyone anywhere if they approved of a relationship between a 45 year old and a 9 year old is acceptable, and I guarantee you they won't say 'it depends if shes had a period'.
err... your sources are flawed... where does it say that she got married at the age of six? and please don't refer to the ridiculous link at the beginning of this thread. There many more '100% authentic sources' that would disagree with everything made up by that stupid link.
and how authentic do you think that english translation is?
I've no idea but I shouldn't have thought it was that impossible to translate from Arabic to English. I mean, granted I couldn't do it but let's face it - there are 100's of 1000's of people that can.
However, if you want to be really pedantic about it, the Qu'ran was actually written in a sort of "Old Arabic" anyway - a language which has as much in common with modern Arabic as Anglo-Saxon has in common with modern English (Practically unrecognizable) So, unless you and the rest of the Islamic world are all learned scholars of this ancient and long-since abandoned form of Arabic how do you know what you are reading (in your modern Arabic translations of the Qu'ran) is accurate anyway?
I've no idea but I shouldn't have thought it was that impossible to translate from Arabic to English. I mean, granted I couldn't do it but let's face it - there are 100's of 1000's of people that can.
However, if you want to be really pedantic about it, the Qu'ran was actually written in a sort of "Old Arabic" anyway - a language which has as much in common with modern Arabic as Anglo-Saxon has in common with modern English (Practically unrecognizable) So, unless you and the rest of the Islamic world are all learned scholars of this ancient and long-since abandoned form of Arabic how do you know what you are reading (in your modern Arabic translations of the Qu'ran) is accurate anyway?
It was written in classical Arabic or what is now known as Quranic Arabic. The difference between modern Arabic and Quranic Arabic is roughly the same as comparing Shakespearean English to modern English. With the right education it is perfectly possible to understand it in great depth but some aspects are open to interpretation, e.g. the hijab. The fact that it is unchanged from its original script and that reliance on translation/modernised copies is discouraged means that Muslims share the exact same beliefs on the overwhelming majority of issues. There are some differences between Muslims, e.g. Sunnis, Shias, Suffis etc. but relative to Christianity it has very few.
As a western man puts it, "Muhammad is the most critizied Man in the world". He is decipted as a Paedophile by butthurt Christian debators. I find this rather fascinating considering that Mary herself in the bible became pregnant at the age of 11, Indian and Chinese cultures today practice paedophillia as did the Ancient Egyptions and Romans. However, none of them are criticised for it. However, what I just stated is not a refutation, but merely a rant.
Anyway,
You must realize that even the most modern anthropology policies dictate that when analysing a time period you must always remove your social frame of reference because its unfair to superimpose one’s own prejudices upon another culture. You have to recognize that each culture has its own traditions, its own way of doing things. If you try to force upon them your own ideals, principles and acceptability’s, you end up being unjust towards them.
You must realize that even the most modern anthropology policies dictate that when analysing a time period you must always remove your social frame of reference because its unfair to superimpose one’s own prejudices upon another culture. You have to recognize that each culture has its own traditions, its own way of doing things. If you try to force upon them your own ideals, principles and acceptability’s, you end up being unjust towards them.
Unless with hindsight something is morally unacceptable with the information we have today, and thus anyone claiming to lead a perfect life must be held up to the most rigorous standard of morality?
Discuss theological issues, which are issues inherent to a religion, not their political manifestations.
Re: Muhammad a pedophile, rapist and torturer?
... the way your posts sound... is just like reading something written by a person sitting in a dark room, not willing to open the blinds just because he doesn't want to see the ' light'
