[NFI]

Originally Posted by this

Have you?

It is widely reported in the news that the reason the british armies are being attacked is because the people DO NOT want them to be there.

If a country doesnt want your help, doesnt ask for it. then what gives another country the right to basically invade and take over? it just makes no sense.

Yeah I have actually. Maybe if you read up a little about the Afghan culture then you would have a clearer understanding of how the people think/behave. You would be pleasantly suprised to find that many Afghans don't want us to leave!

[hootandroar]

Originally Posted by NFI

Yeah I have actually. Maybe if you read up a little about the Afghan culture then you would have a clearer understanding of how the people think/behave. You would be pleasantly suprised to find that many Afghans don't want us to leave!

To add weight to that so have I, starting from the start of the conflict. The difference in living standards has steadly improved with conditions in the north of the country with nato forces present in greater numbers showing a marked improvement over the south. Troops do have a positive impact and when dealing with villiage leaders and local elders people want the same as everyone else in the world; insomuch as they want security to live their lives in their own way. The NATO troops and ISAF provide this for them, the Taliban do not. It will be a long road but the continued presence and then gradual withdrawal will take years not months in order to leave Afghanistan with a stablity that will endure.

[Q_M]

Originally Posted by this

No one wants them here! I dont want to walk out into my street and see foreign soldiers lining the streets with rifles. Who wants that? Kids playing while the army walk about with guns. No thank you.

I would LOVE to know why they are still wasting their time, and mine.

Sorry how is it wasting your time? And the reasons they are there have very kindly been pointed out by several people now.

[warrenpenalver]

"This" sod off and go make some anti-war thread somewhere relevant on the forums.

In my opinion, combat 95 is not the smartest of uniforms and certainly is not "smart evening wear".

If a bar has a dress code then so be it. Just like on base there's very few occasions you'd get away with wearing day time or working rig in the mess bar in the evening.

Big deal made over nothing as per usual.

[Harvey121]

Originally Posted by this

I agree with the bar. I dont agree that soldiers should get any special treatment. it's their chosen profession just like anyone elses. i think it's more shocking that people were shocked.

i hate all this "heroes" attitude. they chose the job, they do the job -just like anyone else. i work in tesco and do my job. am i a hero?
if i wanted to risk my life i would join the army, but i dont... so i dont. simple.

Fantastic input PLEB

[0907714]

Originally Posted by this

No one wants them here! I dont want to walk out into my street and see foreign soldiers lining the streets with rifles. Who wants that? Kids playing while the army walk about with guns. No thank you.

I would LOVE to know why they are still wasting their time, and mine.

Civilians who are under threat from the taliban. I think you should consider the views made by the other people in this thread and have a real think.

NI is a great example. It happened on our own soil. Clearly, the safety given to civilians by the british armed forces was appreciated.

Its not just soldiers lining the streets with rifles, but as wizz pointed out, medics, doctors, construction teams, training the afgahan police and army. If more support comes from other countries and the new large input by the US, then this campaign can be successful and the results can already be seen. Its not a waste of time.


On the subject of the OP, at first I though they should have been let in, but at the end of the day, if they chose to have certain rules they can.

If a club/pub decides to let soldiers etc in, thats will boost their own reputation. However, some people, as we can see, sadly are ignorant in respect to the operation in Afgahnistan and I recommend a rethink and research to reconsider your viewpoint which is indeed, narrow.

[Schleigg]

Originally Posted by 0907714

I recommend a rethink and research to reconsider your viewpoint which is indeed, narrow.

I applaud your point of view and your drive to educate, however my original post was not anti-forces and should you happen to see what other posts I have made on TSR; I think you will find that my viewpoint might be slightly broader than you may have first thought.

[0907714]

Originally Posted by Schleigg

I applaud your point of view and your drive to educate, however my original post was not anti-forces and should you happen to see what other posts I have made on TSR; I think you will find that my viewpoint might be slightly broader than you may have first thought.

I apologise, that sentence was towards the quoted poster. Not you

[Schleigg]

Originally Posted by 0907714

I apologise, that sentence was towards the quoted poster. Not you