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Dear MissKey,
I've got ur same problems! I graduated this summer but since then nothing! I'd like to find somewhere to gain some experience but I dont know where to start (as I'm from Italy and I'm new in the UK)!
Does anyone know labs or hospitals or private clinics in London where they accept volunteers or trainees even for a short period? Help!
im based in manchester so i dont know where in london you can apply, but one of my friends just rang up at her nearby hospital to ask if she could volunteer work or work experience and they gladly gave her advice and phone numbers for the appropriate people she needed to contact. and that the same for labs and medical centres...it is really just a matter of asking, i wish i listened to myself right now lol!!!
I don't understand, is there another way to become a qualified audiologist without doing the clinical scientist programme? I want to do an MSc audiology at Manchester. If I pay my tuition myself, what do I do about the clinical training year? I mean is it only possible to get clinical training through the clinical scientist scheme or can you just apply for it independently? If you don't get your clinical placement through the clinical scientist scheme then do you still get paid? Or do you have to take out a loan to support yourself? I am soooo confused! And I've seen people on this thread talking about how clinical scientists can earn £93000 a year, do you HAVE to become a clinical scientist after completing this scheme? Or can you just be an audiologist.
Possibly a cut in the budget of the health authorities has led to a reduction in places for genetics/cytogenetics. Or maybe there's some people who deferred entry or something, if you can do that, I don't really know
I think they are slowly getting rid of this discipline. In a few years I heard it might not exist because machines now do most of their job! PCR and sequencing is done mostly nowadays with high throughput robots!
I don't understand, is there another way to become a qualified audiologist without doing the clinical scientist programme? I want to do an MSc audiology at Manchester. If I pay my tuition myself, what do I do about the clinical training year? I mean is it only possible to get clinical training through the clinical scientist scheme or can you just apply for it independently? If you don't get your clinical placement through the clinical scientist scheme then do you still get paid? Or do you have to take out a loan to support yourself? I am soooo confused! And I've seen people on this thread talking about how clinical scientists can earn £93000 a year, do you HAVE to become a clinical scientist after completing this scheme? Or can you just be an audiologist.
There are Audiologists and Clinical Scientists in Audiology (also known as Audiological Scientists). Audiologists begin work on band 5 and Clinical Scientists on band 6.
In order to become an Audiologist you can do a 4 year BSc in Audiology. Alternatively, you can also do a science degree and then do a one year MSc in Audiology. As the MSc has no real clinical component, you are required to do a one year clinical placement after the MSc in order to register as an Audiologist. To be able to do the MSc route, you must apply to the University of your choise (Manchester, Southampton or UCL) for a place on their course and also for a funded CCC place. This funding covers fees, a bursary to live off and a one year salaried clinical placemt at the end of the MSc.
If you would like to become a Clinical scientist in Audiology you must apply to the University of your choice. You also need to apply via the Clinical Scientist Recruitment Services for a position as a Trainee Clinical Scientist. If you are successful, you will study the MSc for one year (which is salaried, currently at £24,831). After the course, you will go and work at the hospital that have employed you for a further 3 years.
So to summarise, there are two ways to study the MSc Audiology- either with funding from the University or via the Clinical Scientist scheme (which pays much more). If you chose to self fund you will not have any clinical component to your degree and therefore it is not very useful to you at all. You do not HAVE to be a clinical scientist, it all depends on what you want from your job in terms of responsibility and salary.
I hope this makes sense, please tell me if I can help anymore.
There are Audiologists and Clinical Scientists in Audiology (also known as Audiological Scientists). Audiologists begin work on band 5 and Clinical Scientists on band 6.
In order to become an Audiologist you can do a 4 year BSc in Audiology. Alternatively, you can also do a science degree and then do a one year MSc in Audiology. As the MSc has no real clinical component, you are required to do a one year clinical placement after the MSc in order to register as an Audiologist. To be able to do the MSc route, you must apply to the University of your choise (Manchester, Southampton or UCL) for a place on their course and also for a funded CCC place. This funding covers fees, a bursary to live off and a one year salaried clinical placemt at the end of the MSc.
If you would like to become a Clinical scientist in Audiology you must apply to the University of your choice. You also need to apply via the Clinical Scientist Recruitment Services for a position as a Trainee Clinical Scientist. If you are successful, you will study the MSc for one year (which is salaried, currently at £24,831). After the course, you will go and work at the hospital that have employed you for a further 3 years.
So to summarise, there are two ways to study the MSc Audiology- either with funding from the University or via the Clinical Scientist scheme (which pays much more). If you chose to self fund you will not have any clinical component to your degree and therefore it is not very useful to you at all. You do not HAVE to be a clinical scientist, it all depends on what you want from your job in terms of responsibility and salary.
I hope this makes sense, please tell me if I can help anymore.
That does help a lot, thank you! I have applied to Manchester and said I was going to apply for a clinical scientist bursary cos I thought this was the only way to get funded on the course. What is the name of the funding I can get from the university? And how do I apply for it? Sorry for being stupid
You're really not being stupid, it took me ages to get my head around it all!!
The university funded places are called CCC places (I think maybe they're actually funded by the NHS, but all decisions are made by the Uni). Check out this link:
It kind of explains the funding options a bit more clearly. There are around 10 places sponsored by the Uni (i.e. for people that aren't doing clinical scientist scheme).
I basically applied to the Uni in December and was offered a place with the condition that I also got a Clinical scientist post. However, I was on a waiting list for a CCC place too, in case I didn't get a scientist post, i could still study the course and become an Audiologist instead.
Please feel free to ask away, there's soo little info available.
Hey fettucini, don't worry I was asking exactly the same things. NoAngel i think its fair to say you are the expert with the audiology questions! I'm interested to know how you are finding it? I got offered a place at Southampton and I have an interview with Manchester in a few of weeks (quite nervous, I don't know how they gave me the place at Southampton as my interview skills weren't great at all). Is the MSc really hard going? Do you enjoy it?
Hey fettucini, don't worry I was asking exactly the same things. NoAngel i think its fair to say you are the expert with the audiology questions! I'm interested to know how you are finding it? I got offered a place at Southampton and I have an interview with Manchester in a few of weeks (quite nervous, I don't know how they gave me the place at Southampton as my interview skills weren't great at all). Is the MSc really hard going? Do you enjoy it?
Haha, I don't mind helping where I can. I found it soo hard to find the info I needed when applying!
If I'm honest, I'm finding the MSc very difficult, yet pretty enjoyable too. The timetable is quite full, the pace is fast but everything is so new to me, so in that sense it keep it all interesting and on my toes! There's a lot of work, but I have a feeling it's all going to be so worth it. The lecturers all all so supportive and friendly and I'm looking forward to my clinical component after the course. Plus deciding on dissertation topic now which is keeping everything interesting Don't be put off by the amount of work, most of us are fine!
I thought my interview had gone really badly, but I think it's usually hard to judge it yourself! Good luck for your interview though. Are you applying for any Clinical Scientist posts?
Haha, I don't mind helping where I can. I found it soo hard to find the info I needed when applying!
If I'm honest, I'm finding the MSc very difficult, yet pretty enjoyable too. The timetable is quite full, the pace is fast but everything is so new to me, so in that sense it keep it all interesting and on my toes! There's a lot of work, but I have a feeling it's all going to be so worth it. The lecturers all all so supportive and friendly and I'm looking forward to my clinical component after the course. Plus deciding on dissertation topic now which is keeping everything interesting Don't be put off by the amount of work, most of us are fine!
I thought my interview had gone really badly, but I think it's usually hard to judge it yourself! Good luck for your interview though. Are you applying for any Clinical Scientist posts?
Ah thanks for the insight. Yes I really want a Clinical Scientist post but not sure of my chances. I am hopefully going to apply to some South Centrals and Easterns. I wanted a post to come up in Kent or London but none did! Did you manage to get a post last year?
There are posts in Reading and Windsor, they any good for proximity to London? I somehow managed to get a post last year, feel really lucky to have got it too. The salary for the MSc is very helpful. So it's hard work but at least I have some pennies to enjoy when I get a few spare hours! Just give me a shout if you want any help with anything.
There are posts in Reading and Windsor, they any good for proximity to London? I somehow managed to get a post last year, feel really lucky to have got it too. The salary for the MSc is very helpful. So it's hard work but at least I have some pennies to enjoy when I get a few spare hours! Just give me a shout if you want any help with anything.
Yes I am going to apply to those two, and then maybe Cambridge, and either Portsmouth or Brighton. I visited the department in Swansea and really liked it there though. so who knows! I'll have to have to good think. but thanks for your help.
Btw well done with getting yours! you must have been well chuffed!
Healthcare and Emergency Services - discussion on careers, and permanent employment relating to the Heath and emergency services. From the NHS and the Poilce to the Coast Guard and Fire services.
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