University of Gloucestershire shrinks size of SU bar because of increase in muslims

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Increase-Muslim-leads-smaller-student-bar/story-11887352-detail/story.html

Your thoughts?

Reply 1

shimamura

3

I welcome muslims.

I didnt see any muslims trashing london.

Reply 2

fudgesundae

16

Original post by noorkhanuk85

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Increase-Muslim-leads-smaller-student-bar/story-11887352-detail/story.html

Your thoughts?

Well if a larger proportion of the student body has become Muslim that means that a larger proportion of the student body now doesn't drink alcohol. So surely they don't need a bar the same size as before, if less people now drink alcohol?

edit: seriously? it's simple supply and demand. Less demand for alcohol, so the supply is less.

(edited 12 years ago)

Reply 3

noorkhanuk85

OP

2

Original post by shimamura

I welcome muslims.

I didnt see any muslims trashing london.

I'm a muslim myself. The reason why we didn't take part in the riots were because of two reasons:

1. Holy month of Ramadan. This means fasting, always tell the truth, share food with others, prayer, meditation.

2. Most British born Muslims (myself included) are patriots. :smile:

Reply 4

Rtcw

14

So... Is there problem with Muslims not drinking alcohol?

Reply 5

shimamura

3

Original post by noorkhanuk85

I'm a muslim myself. The reason why we didn't take part in the riots were because of two reasons:

1. Holy month of Ramadan. This means fasting, always tell the truth, share food with others, prayer, meditation.

2. Most British born Muslims (myself included) are patriots. :smile:

I don't put a great deal of store by patriotism having been born in america, lived in hong kong and been raised in UK. I just respect law-abiding people.

Before I moved to London, I didnt care for muslims mostly because I took them to be zealous isolationists but now my best friend is a muslim and we got on so well because we were the only people in class not obsessed with drink, drugs and porn and we both valued family, friends and hard work.

I salute you if youre anything like him.

Reply 6

Kolya

17

noorkhanuk85

Your thoughts?

On the one hand it's good as a small bar full with people is preferable to a big one which is empty and feels depressing.

On the other hand it might encourage social divisions along mainly racial lines. Rather than encouraging an inclusive community spirit the SU might be seen to be dividing people up by race and religion.

Reply 7

Aphotic Cosmos

17

The University of Leicester is a growing hub for muslim students from around the world and is in one of the most diverse cities in the UK with a large muslim population.

We just built a new SU with the biggest club of any university premises in the UK.

:dontknow:

Reply 8

wildrover

19

If I went there I'd be kicking up a massive fuss with the student union for not trying to stop it.

Reply 9

Psyk

16

Supply and demand. There's no point in having a massive SU bar if it's half empty most of the time. To be honest, the one at Bristol was like that a lot of the time. It was very big, but most nights there wouldn't be that many people there. Not because people didn't want to drink, it's just that there are loads of other bars closer to where people live.

Original post by Kolya

On the other hand it might encourage social divisions along mainly racial lines. Rather than encouraging an inclusive community spirit the SU might be seen to be dividing people up by race and religion.

Sounds like their reasoning behind it was that if they didn't do it, it would be encouraging even bigger social divisions because muslims wouldn't go to the union at all.

Reply 10

MonkeyNews

Ridiculous.

What is wrong with this country?

Reply 11

Snagprophet

17

Thank **** I'm not going to Gloucestershire then.

Reply 12

Kolya

17

Original post by Psyk

Supply and demand. There's no point in having a massive SU bar if it's half empty most of the time. To be honest, the one at Bristol was like that a lot of the time. It was very big, but most nights there wouldn't be that many people there. Not because people didn't want to drink, it's just that there are loads of other bars closer to where people live.

Sounds like their reasoning behind it was that if they didn't do it, it would be encouraging even bigger social divisions because muslims wouldn't go to the union at all.

true. the SU is faced with a difficult situation.

it would be interesting to see the separate groups step out of their comfort zones and share themselves socially - with the alchys abstaining some nights to welcome in the muslims and their preferences and the muslims drinking some nights so that they are better able to understand the alchys - but it would take someone very naive to imagine there is much chance of that happening.

Reply 13

Harmonic Minor

1

Welcome to Eurabia, enjoy your stay.

Reply 14

L i b

19

Well, Muslims for a start, but I suspect there's more to it than that. Lots of Students' Unions these days are trying to exploit the increasing number of (ostensibly more sensible) postgraduate and mature students as well as making their venues geared towards day-time use.

Whilst non-drinking Muslims will be one target market, there are plenty of others that they'll be trying to appeal to. Financially, it's pretty sound: there's plenty of money to be made in food and soft-drinks and there aren't a lot of dedicated drinkers during the early afternoon.

Original post by MonkeyNews

Ridiculous.

What is wrong with this country?

The number of racists certainly isn't encouraging.

Reply 15

Manitude

20

Are they shrinking it proportionally though?

*reads article*

It only shows one small picture of a pretty small bar. Surely that's not the only bar on campus? That's tiny!

Reply 16

Daniellejo.

12

Well if there are more and more non-drinkers coming into the university, you'd assume that there would be less of an emphasis on drinking.
Don't see the problem to be honest it's not like they're banning alcohol, if you want to go you can. Muslims may not want to go because it's expected a lot of drinking will be going on, what's the point in having a a too large venue if there are less potential visitors? At the end of the day you still get your night out, it just seems less empty.

Reply 17

Joinedup

20

I expect the cost of drink in student bars has increased more rapidly than student income since a lot of those bars were created, just the same effect that's knackering the general pub trade in the country i.e. people are increasingly drinking at home.

Reply 18

drbluebox

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Original post by Joinedup

I expect the cost of drink in student bars has increased more rapidly than student income since a lot of those bars were created, just the same effect that's knackering the general pub trade in the country i.e. people are increasingly drinking at home.

I remember only 4-5 years ago geting a pint for a quid or a vodka and coke for £1-£1.50 yet nowadays have been to student bars and paid MORE than a local pub in town but I assume thats down to the middle class mentality these days where people claim they are poor as they are students but have expensive luxuries like a high priced phone such as a iphone and a expensive laptop.

Anyway onto the matter, I pretty much stopped drinking 2-3 years ago but have about one drink every 2 or so months now but I do enjoy going into a student bar and sitting around and chilling out so in that sense its a shame since you dont have to drink alcohol in a bar.

Reply 19

A level Az

16

Don't understand this thread. We're discussing basic logic?

Original post by shimamura

I welcome muslims.

I didnt see any muslims trashing london.

Original post by fudgesundae

Well if a larger proportion of the student body has become Muslim that means that a larger proportion of the student body now doesn't drink alcohol. So surely they don't need a bar the same size as before, if less people now drink alcohol?

edit: seriously? it's simple supply and demand. Less demand for alcohol, so the supply is less.

Original post by noorkhanuk85

I'm a muslim myself. The reason why we didn't take part in the riots were because of two reasons:

1. Holy month of Ramadan. This means fasting, always tell the truth, share food with others, prayer, meditation.

2. Most British born Muslims (myself included) are patriots. :smile:

3. Muslims don't steal/destroy property as that is a great sin.

Does anything more need to be said after these comments? Really...

(edited 12 years ago)

University of Gloucestershire shrinks size of SU bar because of increase in muslims

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