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Reply 60
Original post by smashah
TBH you should've thought about all that before you applied. Also, you're in Oxford, a social life isn't what you're there for. Maybe if you start studying in the time you spend trying to socialize you'll do better.

Sorry, might be a sounding a bit mean, but it's true.


bit harsh. i would say 90% of the people who get into oxford go because its one of the best unis in the world, they dont really think these things through. this could happen at any uni
Original post by PinkSprinkles

Original post by PinkSprinkles
I'm doing Classics at Oxford and I'm thinking of dropping out. I don't like my subject anymore (and I'm not that good at at it) and although I've met some nice people, I feel like my social life is a bit boring- I've only been clubbing about three times since freshers, I think. We don't have any kind of kitchen and no-one hangs out in the common room ever, so we don't really socialise spontaneously, it's always planned in advance. I wish I could leave my room and see people but I don't unless I text them all and ask if they're busy first, and a lot of the time they're working. I'm planning on applying this cycle for Speech and Language Therapy at places like Reading and Newcastle- I wouldn't have to accept any offers until May so I can go do another term at Oxford in the meantime and see how it goes. My family were so incredibly pleased when I got in to Oxford, it feels like I'm going to be a massive disappointment to them if I leave. I had doubts about it before I went, but I kinda got swept along. What do you all think? Am I insane?


I feel the same, I do Maths and Philosophy and am by far the worst at both in my college. I also really don't like maths anymore, but I'm spending most of my time on it just to absolutely scrape by. I got back to college after Christmas a week ago, after debating seriously whether I should come back or not. Everyone I spoke to over the holiday told me to give it a year, but now I'm back it's all exactly the same as before, I'm still unable to do most of my work and I really don't enjoy it. The thought of quitting now I've made it this far is really horrible, I don't know if I could even if I was borderline failing out, but carrying on like this also doesn't seem to be feasible.

I love the people here, socially I have settled in really well, and I know that shouldn't be a factor but it makes it harder for me to consider leaving when I have such good friends here. I just wish it wasn't Oxford. If I were at most other unis I would have switched course without a second thought earlier in term, but the process is so awkward here and I kept telling myself that it was only the system shock of moving to Oxford that was making the work so hard and that eventually I would catch up and get on top of it. That obviously hasn't been the case and it's actually gotten much harder rather than easier to cope with.

I can't see a way out, I already get a lot of extra help from my college and other maths students, and I have talked to my tutors about possibly leaving. They think I can make it through the course but I don't know if it's worth feeling so bad all the time and not really enjoying a minute of the studying.

Has anybody got any suggestions at all as to how I can make this term better for myself? I really don't want to leave, partly because I got this far and partly because I can't shake the feeling that maybe it is going to get easier after this year.
Original post by smashah
TBH you should've thought about all that before you applied. Also, you're in Oxford, a social life isn't what you're there for. Maybe if you start studying in the time you spend trying to socialize you'll do better.

Sorry, might be a sounding a bit mean, but it's true.



Seriously, why has this quote got 29 dislikes..this is just the truth!!...(truth hurts)
Original post by Charlottepb1
I feel the same, I do Maths and Philosophy and am by far the worst at both in my college. I also really don't like maths anymore, but I'm spending most of my time on it just to absolutely scrape by. I got back to college after Christmas a week ago, after debating seriously whether I should come back or not. Everyone I spoke to over the holiday told me to give it a year, but now I'm back it's all exactly the same as before, I'm still unable to do most of my work and I really don't enjoy it. The thought of quitting now I've made it this far is really horrible, I don't know if I could even if I was borderline failing out, but carrying on like this also doesn't seem to be feasible.

I love the people here, socially I have settled in really well, and I know that shouldn't be a factor but it makes it harder for me to consider leaving when I have such good friends here. I just wish it wasn't Oxford. If I were at most other unis I would have switched course without a second thought earlier in term, but the process is so awkward here and I kept telling myself that it was only the system shock of moving to Oxford that was making the work so hard and that eventually I would catch up and get on top of it. That obviously hasn't been the case and it's actually gotten much harder rather than easier to cope with.

I can't see a way out, I already get a lot of extra help from my college and other maths students, and I have talked to my tutors about possibly leaving. They think I can make it through the course but I don't know if it's worth feeling so bad all the time and not really enjoying a minute of the studying.

Has anybody got any suggestions at all as to how I can make this term better for myself? I really don't want to leave, partly because I got this far and partly because I can't shake the feeling that maybe it is going to get easier after this year.


You say you don't like maths anymore but is that because you don't like the abtstractness and difficulty of pure? Would you be happier doing straight maths so that you were doing applied aswell. You may be able to switch to it as you haven't missed a huge amount of material. Most of it is repeated again over the next two terms. After the first term of second year you wouldn't have to do any pure again and complex analysis is much better than real. Quite alot of the maths people look forward to when they can drop pure. If you really like the philosophy side but would prefer to do applied maths, you could look into changing to Physics and Philospohy.
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Original post by PinkSprinkles
so I'd be 24/25 before I got my first real job...
I'm one of those people that hates not having a real plan and knowing exactly what they're doing.


Dont even go on what age you will be when you have your first real job, i will be 24 when I finish uni before i've even considered a masters or even a career! There are people who are starting uni at that age or even older going into doing a degree then working towards PCGEs (a couple of my mates).

Dont take age into consideration. So what if you will be 24 before your first job, its still a young age and still have plently of time to work your way up the ladder of doing SLT, consider changing to take english/modern lanuages or doing classics as a minor

If you do want to work with adults, try and do some work experience as well and talk to careers advice as well
Reply 65
Original post by Charlottepb1
I feel the same, I do Maths and Philosophy and am by far the worst at both in my college. I also really don't like maths anymore, but I'm spending most of my time on it just to absolutely scrape by. I got back to college after Christmas a week ago, after debating seriously whether I should come back or not. Everyone I spoke to over the holiday told me to give it a year, but now I'm back it's all exactly the same as before, I'm still unable to do most of my work and I really don't enjoy it. The thought of quitting now I've made it this far is really horrible, I don't know if I could even if I was borderline failing out, but carrying on like this also doesn't seem to be feasible.

I love the people here, socially I have settled in really well, and I know that shouldn't be a factor but it makes it harder for me to consider leaving when I have such good friends here. I just wish it wasn't Oxford. If I were at most other unis I would have switched course without a second thought earlier in term, but the process is so awkward here and I kept telling myself that it was only the system shock of moving to Oxford that was making the work so hard and that eventually I would catch up and get on top of it. That obviously hasn't been the case and it's actually gotten much harder rather than easier to cope with.

I can't see a way out, I already get a lot of extra help from my college and other maths students, and I have talked to my tutors about possibly leaving. They think I can make it through the course but I don't know if it's worth feeling so bad all the time and not really enjoying a minute of the studying.

Has anybody got any suggestions at all as to how I can make this term better for myself? I really don't want to leave, partly because I got this far and partly because I can't shake the feeling that maybe it is going to get easier after this year.


Obviously, everyone is different but if it's any reassurance my best friend found his first year of maths and joint schools horrible. He said he felt constantly out of his depth, didn't have a clue what was going on and didn't understand why he'd been given a place. He was failing all his collections - and I mean getting marks in the 20s fail not an 'I didn't get 100%' fail. BUT, he made it through his first year and in his second year found that it began to fall into place. Sure, he still found it hard and didn't turn into someone who just gets maths and never drops below 90 but he went on to get a 2.1 then stayed onto do the 4th year and got a distinction in that - it gets better as you start to have more choice on the modules you take.

The first year is hard, it is a step up from school and people can feel out of their depth - probably more people than you realise! Trust your tutors if they say you can make it through the course - they know what they're talking about. This term, carry on working with your fellow students on problemsheets etc, work hard but don't beat yourself up if you can't do all your problems before tutorials (a lot of maths students don't complete their problem sheets as far as I can tell). And, crucially, make sure you are leaving time for sleep and relaxing whether it is watching tv, having coffee with a friend, doing a sport. If you're tired and working flat out it will seem much worse and you'll probably not be able to concentrate as well so it will be harder.

Best of luck for the term!
Reply 66
Original post by Chem1993
I always wanted to go to Oxford, I spent years working hard and getting the grades that eventually got me a place to study Chemistry this year and I have to say it's the worst decision I have ever made.

You come here knowing you'll have to work alot, what you don't expect is to work 50-60 hours a week and still feel like you're getting nowhere. I spend hours and hours on work and never get it right, and the tutors don't really help you when you don't understand you're just expected to go away and try again by yourself.

I go to labs where the lab demonstrators offer you no help and if you ask for it they either tell you they're busy or haven't done the lab themselves so don't know how to help you. You have to move everything you own back and forth from home to uni every eight weeks. In short this place drives you insane.

I can understand the poster's new lack of interest in their subject because that's what I feel like right now, the social life is rubbish because your schedule is too packed for you to have much of one. I think you should definitely tell your family again that you're not happy and do what feels right to you, I don't think I'll be sticking it out here any longer.

Oxford does not turn out how you think it will.


Original post by Charlottepb1
I feel the same, I do Maths and Philosophy and am by far the worst at both in my college. I also really don't like maths anymore, but I'm spending most of my time on it just to absolutely scrape by. I got back to college after Christmas a week ago, after debating seriously whether I should come back or not. Everyone I spoke to over the holiday told me to give it a year, but now I'm back it's all exactly the same as before, I'm still unable to do most of my work and I really don't enjoy it. The thought of quitting now I've made it this far is really horrible, I don't know if I could even if I was borderline failing out, but carrying on like this also doesn't seem to be feasible.

I love the people here, socially I have settled in really well, and I know that shouldn't be a factor but it makes it harder for me to consider leaving when I have such good friends here. I just wish it wasn't Oxford. If I were at most other unis I would have switched course without a second thought earlier in term, but the process is so awkward here and I kept telling myself that it was only the system shock of moving to Oxford that was making the work so hard and that eventually I would catch up and get on top of it. That obviously hasn't been the case and it's actually gotten much harder rather than easier to cope with.

I can't see a way out, I already get a lot of extra help from my college and other maths students, and I have talked to my tutors about possibly leaving. They think I can make it through the course but I don't know if it's worth feeling so bad all the time and not really enjoying a minute of the studying.

Has anybody got any suggestions at all as to how I can make this term better for myself? I really don't want to leave, partly because I got this far and partly because I can't shake the feeling that maybe it is going to get easier after this year.


Good to know that I'm not alone. I'm start to get the impression that a fair amount of people feel this away. Today was my first proper day back (I had a collection on Friday which went so terribly I walked out early because I genuinely couldn't do half of it) and I'm already feeling completely overwhelmed by all the work I have to do and the thought of spending 8 weeks here is driving me mad. I really like all the people I've met here and it's been good to see them again but I just can't see how I can cope with my course. I sent off my UCAS over the weekend so hopefully I'll get offers from other places.

Advice for powering through- I try to make sure I have one thing to look forward to each day, just little things like painting my nails or watching Sherlock in iplayer and it does help when you're sitting at a desk staring at Latin all day!
Original post by PinkSprinkles
I'm doing Classics at Oxford and I'm thinking of dropping out. I don't like my subject anymore (and I'm not that good at at it) and although I've met some nice people, I feel like my social life is a bit boring- I've only been clubbing about three times since freshers, I think. We don't have any kind of kitchen and no-one hangs out in the common room ever, so we don't really socialise spontaneously, it's always planned in advance. I wish I could leave my room and see people but I don't unless I text them all and ask if they're busy first, and a lot of the time they're working. I'm planning on applying this cycle for Speech and Language Therapy at places like Reading and Newcastle- I wouldn't have to accept any offers until May so I can go do another term at Oxford in the meantime and see how it goes. My family were so incredibly pleased when I got in to Oxford, it feels like I'm going to be a massive disappointment to them if I leave. I had doubts about it before I went, but I kinda got swept along. What do you all think? Am I insane?


I'm sorry if you've already been asked this question, but is there something about the structure of your course, Classics, that's putting you off it, or is it just Oxford itself?
Reply 68
Original post by sixdaysinthesun
I'm sorry if you've already been asked this question, but is there something about the structure of your course, Classics, that's putting you off it, or is it just Oxford itself?


It's the language. I'm still interested in the literature and history of the ancient world and I would probably be fine doing classical studies rather than classics elsewhere, but because I hadn't done Latin at school I wasn't really prepared for what it was going to be like. It's a mixture of the fact that I don't love Latin, that it's taught really intensively and also in the most old fashioned way possible (grammar grammar grammar!) I do have a bit of an issue with Oxford in general though and just how generally intense it all is. Don't get me wrong, there's some fantastic opportunities and things going on here but it's really hard to keep on an even keel, you get a few bits of awesomeness interspersed with feeling completely overburdened. It's amazing to eat in halls at long tables and pretend you're Harry Potter (:tongue:) but sometimes I wish I could just make some pasta with my friends, you know?
Original post by PinkSprinkles
It's the language. I'm still interested in the literature and history of the ancient world and I would probably be fine doing classical studies rather than classics elsewhere, but because I hadn't done Latin at school I wasn't really prepared for what it was going to be like. It's a mixture of the fact that I don't love Latin, that it's taught really intensively and also in the most old fashioned way possible (grammar grammar grammar!) I do have a bit of an issue with Oxford in general though and just how generally intense it all is. Don't get me wrong, there's some fantastic opportunities and things going on here but it's really hard to keep on an even keel, you get a few bits of awesomeness interspersed with feeling completely overburdened. It's amazing to eat in halls at long tables and pretend you're Harry Potter (:tongue:) but sometimes I wish I could just make some pasta with my friends, you know?


So it's sort of a mixture then. I'm sure you've already been told this by a number of people, but if you're not completely disillusioned yet, try sticking it out for a bit longer and see if things improve. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that after mods, you can choose to focus more on the aspects you prefer. Also, you can live out next year and decide how you want to interact with the community.

However, if you really do feel that you can't handle it, then go for something else. Just keep in mind that you may end up with similar feelings about your new situation.

Best of luck!
Reply 70
Original post by PinkSprinkles
I'm doing Classics at Oxford and I'm thinking of dropping out. I don't like my subject anymore (and I'm not that good at at it) and although I've met some nice people, I feel like my social life is a bit boring- I've only been clubbing about three times since freshers, I think. We don't have any kind of kitchen and no-one hangs out in the common room ever, so we don't really socialise spontaneously, it's always planned in advance. I wish I could leave my room and see people but I don't unless I text them all and ask if they're busy first, and a lot of the time they're working. I'm planning on applying this cycle for Speech and Language Therapy at places like Reading and Newcastle- I wouldn't have to accept any offers until May so I can go do another term at Oxford in the meantime and see how it goes. My family were so incredibly pleased when I got in to Oxford, it feels like I'm going to be a massive disappointment to them if I leave. I had doubts about it before I went, but I kinda got swept along. What do you all think? Am I insane?


Drop out. Life's too short as far as I'm concerned to study for four years doing something you hate. Never mind the fact that Classics (and law) are the worst subjects in terms of exams at Oxford. Plus, in the current climate Oxford degrees aren't going to let you walk into a job of your choosing. Personally, the people I met at Oxford who dropped out had my utmost respect, for standing up to their families, friends etc. and saying that they didn't want to do it.
Original post by miss_sexy
Seriously, why has this quote got 29 dislikes..this is just the truth!!...(truth hurts)


Because it was a stupid thing to say?

No-one who goes to Oxford (or any other university for that matter) owes anything to those who wanted to go but didn't get in. And to tell someone they "should have thought about that before applying" is just absurd; you can't know what it's actually like at a university until you've been there.

OP: sorry if you've already answered this (I only read the first page) but did you have collections at the start of Hilary? If so, and if they went okay, I'd think about sticking it out. I felt quite unhappy at several points during first year but I ended up staying and am very glad I did. Don't forget that in second year you can move in with friends and have the kitchen and the evening social stuff that it sounds like you've been craving. You'll also be more used to the workload, so hopefully will find you have more time to have a social life. :smile:

However, I only say this to show that you can come from a position where you're miserable at Oxford to one where you're very happy to be there - but if you want to go, then go - and don't let anyone tell you that you're doing something wrong by dropping out.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Reply 72
Original post by *pitseleh*
Because it was a stupid thing to say?

No-one who goes to Oxford (or any other university for that matter) owes anything to those who wanted to go but didn't get in. And to tell someone they "should have thought about that before applying" is just absurd; you can't know what it's actually like at a university until you've been there.

OP: sorry if you've already answered this (I only read the first page) but did you have collections at the start of Hilary? If so, and if they went okay, I'd think about sticking it out. I felt quite unhappy at several points during first year but I ended up staying and am very glad I did. Don't forget that in second year you can move in with friends and have the kitchen and the evening social stuff that it sounds like you've been craving. You'll also be more used to the workload, so hopefully will find you have more time to have a social life. :smile:

However, I only say this to show that you can come from a position where you're miserable at Oxford to one where you're very happy to be there - but if you want to go, then go - and don't let anyone tell you that you're doing something wrong by dropping out.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.


Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I did have a collection, I thought I did terribly and walked out early in tears but as it turns out I (just!) passed. I also got an essay back today and one of the comments said "tremendously argued!" so the work is going better. Everything is going better, actually. I rearranged my room to make it more homely, the work is more interesting now that it's not all just Latin grammar, I've been going to counselling to help out with my anxiety and now that people seem to be getting in to the swing of work a little more, I've been seeing more of my friends- who I would actually really miss if I left. It's not great but it's starting to feel... manageable. It's tough but I think I can do it and I think things will keep on getting better. So I'm probably going to stay.

(and I have an offer for speech sciences at Newcastle in case it all goes tits up!)
Reply 73
The first term is always the toughest for Freshers. I considered dropping out at the same time as you, but I ended up liking Uni more and more...and stayed on to do postgraduate courses for 4 more years because I didn't want to leave!

Good luck settling in further :smile:
Original post by PinkSprinkles
Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I did have a collection, I thought I did terribly and walked out early in tears but as it turns out I (just!) passed. I also got an essay back today and one of the comments said "tremendously argued!" so the work is going better. Everything is going better, actually. I rearranged my room to make it more homely, the work is more interesting now that it's not all just Latin grammar, I've been going to counselling to help out with my anxiety and now that people seem to be getting in to the swing of work a little more, I've been seeing more of my friends- who I would actually really miss if I left. It's not great but it's starting to feel... manageable. It's tough but I think I can do it and I think things will keep on getting better. So I'm probably going to stay.

(and I have an offer for speech sciences at Newcastle in case it all goes tits up!)


Good for you. No idea why your comment was neg repped - I think it's great that you're feeling happier. I enjoyed my second year more than my first, and my third year most of all (I really didn't want to leave!); I hope things carry on improving for you too. Best of luck. :smile:
Reply 75
Original post by PinkSprinkles
Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I did have a collection, I thought I did terribly and walked out early in tears but as it turns out I (just!) passed. I also got an essay back today and one of the comments said "tremendously argued!" so the work is going better. Everything is going better, actually. I rearranged my room to make it more homely, the work is more interesting now that it's not all just Latin grammar, I've been going to counselling to help out with my anxiety and now that people seem to be getting in to the swing of work a little more, I've been seeing more of my friends- who I would actually really miss if I left. It's not great but it's starting to feel... manageable. It's tough but I think I can do it and I think things will keep on getting better. So I'm probably going to stay...)


# Wait a minute, it's stopped snowing
Girls are fraping, girls are rowing
Playing Quidditch. Feel less ropey.
TSR folk kindly disregard this OP # :smile:
Reply 76
OP... it is your life... so in the end you will have to make the decision yourself but if being at oxford isn't making you happy then i would consider transferring to another course in the uni, or sticking it out.
if its really bad though drop out and figure out what you want to do from there
best of luck
Reply 77
Original post by shoshin
# Wait a minute, it's stopped snowing
Girls are fraping, girls are rowing
Playing Quidditch. Feel less ropey.
TSR folk kindly disregard this OP # :smile:


:lolwut:
Reply 78
Original post by PinkSprinkles
I'm doing Classics at Oxford and I'm thinking of dropping out. I don't like my subject anymore (and I'm not that good at at it) and although I've met some nice people, I feel like my social life is a bit boring- I've only been clubbing about three times since freshers, I think. We don't have any kind of kitchen and no-one hangs out in the common room ever, so we don't really socialise spontaneously, it's always planned in advance. I wish I could leave my room and see people but I don't unless I text them all and ask if they're busy first, and a lot of the time they're working. I'm planning on applying this cycle for Speech and Language Therapy at places like Reading and Newcastle- I wouldn't have to accept any offers until May so I can go do another term at Oxford in the meantime and see how it goes. My family were so incredibly pleased when I got in to Oxford, it feels like I'm going to be a massive disappointment to them if I leave. I had doubts about it before I went, but I kinda got swept along. What do you all think? Am I insane?


I suppose you could be in the wrong college? You might want to try Somerville :smile:
Reply 79
Original post by riotgrrl
:lolwut:


Pinkspringles has stuck with it and all is turning out well now; a 'Camp Granada' experience:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzErh_s62Wk

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