Wine at 14% is never bad?

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    In my conshiderable experiensh...

    As quality goes have you ever had a bad wine at 14%?

    My thoughts are that simply being able to make a wine at that strength involves such skill and quality ingredients that it precludes it from being a duffer?

    I simply cannot think of one that was bad.

    Shiraz, Zinfandel, Cab Sauv, Merlot etc.

    No. No. I do not concur sir. Bad wine comes in all grapes and alcohol strengths. You need to try harder in your quest for bad wine - the strong stuff is defo out there

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    I have tried many cheap drinks at high ABV of practically all persuasions, including wine, and they are all both hideous and brilliant simultaneously. But leaning towards hideous. Terrible strong wine is out there

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    (Original post by CN)
    No. No. I do not concur sir. Bad wine comes in all grapes and alcohol strengths. You need to try harder in your quest for bad wine - the strong stuff is defo out there
    Maybe I just didn't realise how selective I am after all? :cool:

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    Shiraz is not nice IMO, can you get that at 14%?

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    (Original post by Raiden10)
    Shiraz is not nice IMO, can you get that at 14%?
    Assuredly yes.

    Cabernet Shiraz is popular too.

    15% is not uncommon in any of these grapes. But perhaps less of recent as I think the extremely hot seasons that produced them in the new world have not been present of late.

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    I had a really naff Malbec at 14% once. I did have a cold so perhaps my taste was a bit obscured.

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    I once had really bad malbec that was 14%. It tasted like feet. That said, I drank it anyway. Spent way too much to toss it, and the shop where I bought it was a little too far to walk for a refund. So yes, bad wine can be had at alcohol percentages as high as 14%.

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    (Original post by X_mark_the_spot)
    I once had really bad malbec that was 14%. It tasted like feet.
    :rofl:

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    Anyone else enjoy Cabernet Sauvignon? It is indeed the best, in my opinion.

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    I'm having a glass of Merlot from Chile right now (12%), and it's really good. I also like Shiraz.

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    I imagine there exists wine that is both low quality and strong in order to cater to the demographic of people who want to get drunk on wine but can't afford decent stuff.

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    (Original post by Raiden10)
    Anyone else enjoy Cabernet Sauvignon? It is indeed the best, in my opinion.
    Yes. Seems to be a popular comba across theworld. But doens't it often come from South America?

    Oh yeas South African can be rather good too. Trying to think of a favourite brand from there... :confused:

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    (Original post by GunnerBill)
    Oh yeas South African can be rather good too. Trying to think of a favourite brand from there... :confused:
    I really like most South African and Chilean wines, but can't think of a favourite brand either... French wines are slightly overrated in my opinion.

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    I've made a 22% wine and it was ****ing dreadful, did the trick though.

    Making a wine at that strength is not hard, simply requires a strain of yeast that ferments out at 14%, then a case of adjusting the specific gravity of the liquid to the correct level so fermentation can complete.

    Percentage is not an indicator of a good wine, I've had good and bad.

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    dont know too much about wine, but all i know is i tend to like SA stuff. I only like red wine too.

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    You get bad wine at all %s. Same can be said of good wine - stronger is not necessarily better. EG, I'm drinking a white wine at 12.5% now, and it is lovely - crisp, sharp and fruity.

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    14% Not bad? It is for a ******* hangover ill tell you that.


    Chianti beats all.

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    (Original post by Vindobona)
    French wines are slightly overrated in my opinion.
    :angry::angry::angry:

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    I'm enjoying a Cabernet Sauvignon at 13.5% from Chile tonight. There was a special offer at Tesco, 2 pounds off. The flavours are quite intense and full-bodied, even a little bit too much in my opinion. I preferred the Merlot I had the other night.

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