Why the HELL is America still in Afghan?

And yet didnt have a clue about the mughal invasions of afganistan or the ottoman attrocites in europe and north africa. Nor did you realise that IQ is not of measure of level of education....
that is funny

I dont see what point you are grasping at, But i ll take a stab its something about saudi foreign policy . They are strategic ally of the US, but apart from a mutual emnity with iran, they arnt 'best buddies' The USA gets oil and sells tanks and planes to saudi, thats the extent of the relatuionship. The US doesnt support saudis 'destroy israel' stance nor its tacit support for a sunni taleban/al-quaeda regeime in afganistan.

The US follows its own agenda as youd expect.

Contradiction. Don't you just see now how dodgy this war is?



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read the bits of my post between what you highlighted

You're right, I'm the one that keeps going around in circles.

Russia

Iran

Heroin Trafficking

"Stability"

And helping their indfrastructure as a side show.

Threat of terrorist attacks.

Yeh right lol, source of this mystery 'poll'?

Thats why there has been nearly 35 different countries with operations in afganistan

In the sense that they actualy did harbour him and then told the US f off wehn they asked them to give him up.

Hence the US went over there with an armed force and got him. Makes perfect sense when you think about it.

Yes, because it's just American troops in Afghan:


And that's not a complete list by any means!
Clearly, the leaders of all these countries are idiot morons liars, and a bunch of TSR users can see through their great deception and know more about what should be done with Afghanistan.




Well what about the Afghan people who don't want the Taliban dominating their lives and think the country is heading in the right direction thanks to NATO's efforts?
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_60536.htm
I know it's a **** survey, and was the first one that came up on google, but in my experience, many normal Afghans are very grateful for the work we do out there - thousands of our troops have been badly mutilated trying to help THEIR country! Literally fighting to protect a democracy against a group of armed extremists.


When the US, Nato, and loads of countries originally went in to Afghanistan, support here, amongst the British people was high?

We can't just pull out and go back in on a whim depending on how popular the war is on a particular day, we have comittments to train the Afghan forces, as best as possible, so that they don't end up literally swinging from the gate posts.

Gallup.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/154/26553.html



Sorry, I forgot that everything that governments do is exactly what their populations want them to do, isn't it?



The Taliban had offered to put Bin Laden on trial and had requested evidence for the trial from the US in early October. The US rejected their offers and invaded a few days later.



Got him in Pakistan, that is. Where most NATO military commanders and government officials had thought he was for years before they finally went after him there. Finding OBL was way down on their priority list.

The poll you just provided states the countries that didnt support invasion

supoorted extradtion not a taleban kangaroo court - we have just clarified the taleban turned down the request for extradtion.

Err...no. In fact the first two countries listed as having majorities opposing the war were the UK and France, both of whom participated in the invasion. .

The US didn't request extradition, they simply requested the Taliban 'hand him over'. That's not extradition, extradition requires a legal court process. .

Seriously? Pakistan have been chums of Washington for years. That's why the Americans don't care about Pakistan having nuclear weapons but kick up a huge fuss about the possibility of Iran having them.

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(1)You recall wrong. Polls in late September found that majorities of those polled opposed war in most countries. The only countries where majorities supported war were the USA, Israel and India.



(2)The US made no attempt to go after OBL or Al Qaeda until months after the initial invasion.

In what sense had the Taliban 'harboured' him? The USA didn't even request his extradition before invading. For all the propaganda, the relationship between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda wasn't that close before the invasion.



(3)Well that's a given isn't it? It was obviously good intentions, because NATO were doing it, the state and media treat that as if it's the only possibility. NATO and the US claim to have good intentions everywhere, as do all invaders and empires.

What sort of impartial source are you after??

And jolly well done you, I have also spoken to Afghans - in Afghanistan, and encountered vast differences in opinion.

Umm no. Saying that the Mujahadeen are the Taliban is as wrong as saying that the British are Scottish.

I think you'll find i said they were a precursor. The Americans helped the Mujahadeen to take power, and enabled Afghanistan to become accustomed to extremist leadership, which, were perfect conditions for the later emergence of the Taliban.