What has happened to class and sophistication?
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What has happened to class and sophistication?
About an hour ago I came across some pictures of the so-called 'best dressed' from Ladies' Day at Aintree today and it got me thinking: what has happened to class among women (and most likely men as well)?
50 years ago, Aintree, Ascot, Derby and the likes would have showcased some of the best dressed, most sophisticated women out there. Today women seem to be adopting the "anything longer than 2 inches below your knicker line is too long" approach as opposed to "anything shorter than 2 inches above your knee is too short."
A prime example which seemed to be the order of the day at Aintree Ladies' Day:
I would feel self-conscious (in the, I-think-I-look-like-a-prostitute kind of way!) wearing many of the dresses seen at Aintree today to a nightclub... And this is meant to be a sophisticated, daytime event.
But regardless of the event or occasion, I feel that in general hemlines are getting way too short, as v-necked tops are getting too low. I can't remember the last time I saw someone my age wearing a knee length dress and it's very rare that I see someone dressed up for the evening in an outfit that doesn't show any cleavage. Sure, a little clevage can be sexy and if you have nice legs, why not show them off, but there are ways to achieve that look without looking like a complete tart and that's something British women increasingly don't seem to be able to grasp.
EDIT: Please can we move on from the generic 'just because these particular people do X doesn't mean EVERYONE does X' response. That's not what I'm implying so please get over it.Last edited by Rascacielos; 14-04-2012 at 10:00. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?
I blame the media (not all the media of course) and careless you role models who have no idea of the influence the have on young people.
For instance, I'm not fond of "generated" boy bands or teen groups, but I will admit that they are obviously liked by loads.2-3 years ago, the only people wearing chino's were Carlton from fresh prince!!
It just annoys me how people think they are unique...by dressing the same as everyone else.......le sighLast edited by Just-Some-Guy; 13-04-2012 at 22:17. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?
Agree 100%. I think it's such a shame that this sort of thing has become the norm in today's society. Plus, I hate it when if you do show class and sophistication, you get the mick taken out of you for being 'posh' (I've seen it happen). Well, it's not really posh, it's just having standards.
And apparently 22% of 18-24 year old women would be happy to make a career out of sleeping around.
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Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?
Noone is going to die. A hundred years ago if you so much as showed your ankles you were a slut. Human flesh is natural, people who get antsy about cleavage or legs are just in denial that they are only human. A bit like how those posh people who like to eat in a certain manner are acting as if they are above their animal roots.
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Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?
Sorry, I didn't realise people needed to wear tuxedos/suits (for men) and full length dresses (for women) to look good.
The human body is a natural and beautiful form, overly modest clothing is the product of a bygone era when chastity and religion were linked with the apparent promiscuity of the human race.
That said, I couldn't give a toss about modern 'fashion' either. -
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Just because a few women that decide to wear a mini-skirt to these events, doesn't mean all the women in Britain have fallen into depravity.

Yes hemlines have gotten shorter - but that is fashion. Last summer, maxi dresses and skirts were everywhere and this year you can see beautiful asymmetrical skirts in stores.
If you don't like how short skirts are and how low v-necks are then simple, don't wear them!
I'd go off on another rant about the word "tart" and how quick you are to judge someone purely on the basis of what they're wearing but I'll leave it at that. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?This is Aintree? Aintree isnt Ascot love, its where the scousers go to get wasted.(Original post by Rascacielos)
About an hour ago I came across some pictures of the so-called 'best dressed' from Ladies' Day at Aintree today and it got me thinking: what has happened to class among women (and most likely men as well)?
50 years ago, Aintree, Ascot, Derby and the likes would have showcased some of the best dressed, most sophisticated women out there. Today women seem to be adopting the "anything longer than 2 inches below your knicker line is too long" approach as opposed to "anything shorter than 2 inches above your knee is too short."
A prime example which seemed to be the order of the day at Aintree Ladies' Day:
I would feel self-conscious (in the, I-think-I-look-like-a-prostitute kind of way!) wearing many of the dresses seen at Aintree today to a nightclub... And this is meant to be a sophisticated, daytime event.
But regardless of the event or occasion, I feel that in general hemlines are getting way too short, as v-necked tops are getting too low. I can't remember the last time I saw someone my age wearing a knee length dress and it's very rare that I see someone dressed up for the evening in an outfit that doesn't show any cleavage. Sure, a little clevage can be sexy and if you have nice legs, why not show them off, but there are ways to achieve that look without looking like a complete tart and that's something British women increasingly don't seem to be able to grasp. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?+rep.(Original post by Rascacielos)
About an hour ago I came across some pictures of the so-called 'best dressed' from Ladies' Day at Aintree today and it got me thinking: what has happened to class among women (and most likely men as well)?
50 years ago, Aintree, Ascot, Derby and the likes would have showcased some of the best dressed, most sophisticated women out there. Today women seem to be adopting the "anything longer than 2 inches below your knicker line is too long" approach as opposed to "anything shorter than 2 inches above your knee is too short."
A prime example which seemed to be the order of the day at Aintree Ladies' Day:
I would feel self-conscious (in the, I-think-I-look-like-a-prostitute kind of way!) wearing many of the dresses seen at Aintree today to a nightclub... And this is meant to be a sophisticated, daytime event.
But regardless of the event or occasion, I feel that in general hemlines are getting way too short, as v-necked tops are getting too low. I can't remember the last time I saw someone my age wearing a knee length dress and it's very rare that I see someone dressed up for the evening in an outfit that doesn't show any cleavage. Sure, a little clevage can be sexy and if you have nice legs, why not show them off, but there are ways to achieve that look without looking like a complete tart and that's something British women increasingly don't seem to be able to grasp.
Fascination over celebrities and following fashion play a huge role in such atrocities. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?Are they entering a nearby dog show with those faces?(Original post by Rascacielos)
About an hour ago I came across some pictures of the so-called 'best dressed' from Ladies' Day at Aintree today and it got me thinking: what has happened to class among women (and most likely men as well)?
50 years ago, Aintree, Ascot, Derby and the likes would have showcased some of the best dressed, most sophisticated women out there. Today women seem to be adopting the "anything longer than 2 inches below your knicker line is too long" approach as opposed to "anything shorter than 2 inches above your knee is too short."
A prime example which seemed to be the order of the day at Aintree Ladies' Day:
I would feel self-conscious (in the, I-think-I-look-like-a-prostitute kind of way!) wearing many of the dresses seen at Aintree today to a nightclub... And this is meant to be a sophisticated, daytime event.
But regardless of the event or occasion, I feel that in general hemlines are getting way too short, as v-necked tops are getting too low. I can't remember the last time I saw someone my age wearing a knee length dress and it's very rare that I see someone dressed up for the evening in an outfit that doesn't show any cleavage. Sure, a little clevage can be sexy and if you have nice legs, why not show them off, but there are ways to achieve that look without looking like a complete tart and that's something British women increasingly don't seem to be able to grasp. -
Re: What has happened to class and sophistication?
I'd rather see those two blondes than Camilla Bowles in a stupid hat.
Couldn't give 2 ***** about ladies day and class and sophistication. A mindset pedalled by the upper class who inherit and never work (Duke of Westminister). Any idiot can don fancy clothes. Would they give you the steam of their piss....?Last edited by Fusion; 14-04-2012 at 02:44.