[anonymousibstudent]

I got conditional offers from both Warwick and Notts

But now I'm facing the dilemma of having to chose between one of them as my firm and consequently the other as the second choice.

I'm an overseas student and I haven't gotten a chance to visit either one of their campuses or go to one of their open days. Therefore, I can't really factor in student life, atmosphere, housing etc. into my decision, unless you count the info I get from the uni websites :/

I was hoping that some present/past students could help with my decision by telling me some things abt campus life/housing/how life is in the college of law?

THANKS : )

And erm ... I'm considering Queen Mary too! Thoughts?
^ I'm from HK and I'm used to city life ...... so ... I'm now really indecisive

[Eddyward]

I'm not going to be of much help, as I'm overseas as well, but I know Warrick has a much bigger - natural - campus. A lot like some of the American and Canadian campuses. However, Nottingham is traditionally better known for their Law program. I believe Nottingham would be placed above Warrick, in the upper 2nd-Tier range.

I am also an IB student, and I was wondering what you got as your predicted and what other universities you applied to?

Thanks :P

[littlecreatures]

First of all, congrats with the offers!

I'm not a past/present student so I can't really help with your questions either, but if you're from Singapore or Malaysia, i would say:

Notts >/= Warwick > Queen Mary

This is in terms of reputation with top law firms. Reputation as a university would see Warwick taking top place by some distance. In Singapore and Malaysia especially, many partners in SG/MAS's top law firms are Notts grads (just check on company websites), so the school has a strong alumni network in the legal landscape in the region, especially with Singapore being dubbed as Asia's centre for arbitration law. Queen Mary is up and coming, but its not as prestigious as the aforementioned schools, and IMO it will unfortunately never be regarded amongst the LSE KCL and UCL trio.

[Hannahm6]

(Original post by Eddyward)
I'm not going to be of much help, as I'm overseas as well, but I know Warrick has a much bigger - natural - campus. A lot like some of the American and Canadian campuses. However, Nottingham is traditionally better known for their Law program. I believe Nottingham would be placed above Warrick, in the upper 2nd-Tier range.

I am also an IB student, and I was wondering what you got as your predicted and what other universities you applied to?

Thanks :P

Are you sure you haven't got that the wrong way round??? Nottingham is renowned for having THE big, natural campus- it wins loads of awards for how beautiful it is, where as from what I have heard Warwick is much more concrete.

[Tsunami2011]

Nottingham wins on historical prestige and rankings, but I don't think that there is any serious distinction between the two. Warwick is the more 'reputable and prestigious' overall institution. Partners at the big firms will have individual preferences, and probably won't pay much attention to league tables, so there's no point second guessing. You'll find many people in Warwick who turned down Law at Nottingham and vice versa. Nottingham as an overall university is on the fringes on the top 10, so you might to consider that. In the global rankings for Law/social sciences, Warwick fares better than Nottingham, but that's not really important. If you're international, I would probably go with the university which is viewed best in your homeland. Also, look at which course you prefer, I found the Nottingham course outline very dull. Both courses are taught differently.

[Bea492]

(Original post by Eddyward)
I'm not going to be of much help, as I'm overseas as well, but I know Warrick has a much bigger - natural - campus. A lot like some of the American and Canadian campuses. However, Nottingham is traditionally better known for their Law program. I believe Nottingham would be placed above Warrick, in the upper 2nd-Tier range.

I am also an IB student, and I was wondering what you got as your predicted and what other universities you applied to?

Thanks :P

It's Nottingham that has the big, natural campus. Warwick's campus is great and still has woodland and lakes but is nowhere near as pretty as Notts. I wouldn't necessarily agree with your ideas on the rankings of the two schools. There's really not much between them for Law but Warwick is a better University overall (still not by a massive margin).

OP: Nottingham and Warwick were 2 of my options too I went with Warwick in the end as I preferred the course and it just felt right for me. Nottingham was really nice though and I liked it there too. I just found their course a little more dry than Warwick's.

[anonymousibstudent]

(Original post by Eddyward)
I'm not going to be of much help, as I'm overseas as well, but I know Warrick has a much bigger - natural - campus. A lot like some of the American and Canadian campuses. However, Nottingham is traditionally better known for their Law program. I believe Nottingham would be placed above Warrick, in the upper 2nd-Tier range.

I am also an IB student, and I was wondering what you got as your predicted and what other universities you applied to?

Thanks :P

I'm predicted 36/42 (without bonus points) and 38/45 with bonus points

I applied to Durham, Nottingham, Queen Mary, Warwick and Exeter I got conditionals from all but Durham who rejected me. That was predictable! But I'm not sure that that was the best reach uni I should have chosen, lots of my friends (who didn't apply to law but other subjects) were below the needed predicted grade for subjects like psych and got into UCL!! Maybe I should have applied there .....

[Eddyward]

(Original post by anonymousibstudent)
I'm predicted 36/42 (without bonus points) and 38/45 with bonus points

I applied to Durham, Nottingham, Queen Mary, Warwick and Exeter I got conditionals from all but Durham who rejected me. That was predictable! But I'm not sure that that was the best reach uni I should have chosen, lots of my friends (who didn't apply to law but other subjects) were below the needed predicted grade for subjects like psych and got into UCL!! Maybe I should have applied there .....

Oh i see, Nice!! Is it just me or does it seem like UK universities require a lot more for IB... It seems like a conditional 38 or 39 is a bit high compared to the A level requirements or other diplomas. Unless lot's of people get by with the min, but i doubt that's the case for law. Also what was your HL predictions? cause it seems like UK universities weigh a lot on that :P
I'm hoping for a prediction between 38 - 40 with bonus based on my marks now. I'm thinking about applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and Queen Mary or Warrick for Law. Do you think your LNAT's affected anything?

[anonymousibstudent]

(Original post by Eddyward)
Oh i see, Nice!! Is it just me or does it seem like UK universities require a lot more for IB... It seems like a conditional 38 or 39 is a bit high compared to the A level requirements or other diplomas. Unless lot's of people get by with the min, but i doubt that's the case for law. Also what was your HL predictions? cause it seems like UK universities weigh a lot on that :P
I'm hoping for a prediction between 38 - 40 with bonus based on my marks now. I'm thinking about applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and Queen Mary or Warrick for Law. Do you think your LNAT's affected anything?

My HL predictions were:

Psychology: 7
History: 6
English: 6

(my predictions are actually what I'm getting in my mocks ... so they weren't pushed up)

My LNAT score was 21

Ok I can tell you this, in my English HL class 7 out 11 of us are taking Law in the UK. 2 out of 3 of my best friends are also taking law. Because of this I can safely say this -

Unless your predicted score is not 42/42 ... the chances of you getting into Cambridge/Oxford are very slim. I have a friend who got into Cambridge with 42 but, keep in mind, she's been consistently scoring A*s ever since year 7 ... and she also has outstanding credentials - both inside and outside of school. Another got rejected, but she was only on a 40 :/

LSE ... their .... well. 2 of my friends applied and their predicted (everything in my school when they sent it off was without bonus points) 38/42 and 39/42 respectively. Both got rejected in 2 weeks after sending out their applications.
^ that being said, they both got into Durham

KCL and UCL are much more nicer My two best friends who were both predicted on a 39/42 got into both! Their LNAT scores were 25 and 26. That being said, both of their firms are UCL (cond off at 39, HL 7,7,6) and their back up is, Queen Mary (cond 36, HL 6,6,6). KCL offered them a 18,000 pound scholarship but they rejected it.

This is long.... but I hope this helps!

And since your an international .... Universities are very keen to try to NOT reject you because ... well ... you pay 3x's what the locals pay.

[Eddyward]

(Original post by anonymousibstudent)
My HL predictions were:

Psychology: 7
History: 6
English: 6

(my predictions are actually what I'm getting in my mocks ... so they weren't pushed up)

My LNAT score was 21

Ok I can tell you this, in my English HL class 7 out 11 of us are taking Law in the UK. 2 out of 3 of my best friends are also taking law. Because of this I can safely say this -

Unless your predicted score is not 42/42 ... the chances of you getting into Cambridge/Oxford are very slim. I have a friend who got into Cambridge with 42 but, keep in mind, she's been consistently scoring A*s ever since year 7 ... and she also has outstanding credentials - both inside and outside of school. Another got rejected, but she was only on a 40 :/

LSE ... their .... well. 2 of my friends applied and their predicted (everything in my school when they sent it off was without bonus points) 38/42 and 39/42 respectively. Both got rejected in 2 weeks after sending out their applications.
^ that being said, they both got into Durham

KCL and UCL are much more nicer My two best friends who were both predicted on a 39/42 got into both! Their LNAT scores were 25 and 26. That being said, both of their firms are UCL (cond off at 39, HL 7,7,6) and their back up is, Queen Mary (cond 36, HL 6,6,6). KCL offered them a 18,000 pound scholarship but they rejected it.

This is long.... but I hope this helps!

And since your an international .... Universities are very keen to try to NOT reject you because ... well ... you pay 3x's what the locals pay.

Thanks! That actually helped a lot!
I was surprised at your number of peers taking Law in the UK, but then i realized you are from HK :P
I myself am from HK, I went to Sha Tin College!

Now that you've informed me about these scores, I'm quite scared about applying now! haha I'm most likely only going to be predicted 37/42 ...
It seems like the conditional offers also confirm my suspicion that UK unis seem to require a lot more for IB. Oxbridge and London unis generally have a minimum of 38 - 39/45 for law, while the BC diploma (where i am from) has a minimum of only 85%!

In addition, I know someone that has applied with a 96% GPA and has conditional offers from UCL, KCL, LSE for only 90% in 3 courses...

If my IB grades were translated into BC marks, I'd be averaging around 98%...

It's just disappointing to see UK universities put less emphasis on the IB than North American ones

Sorry for kinda ranting :P

[j_2]

Hello anonymousibstudent.

[shahramN]

I've been to both campuses and i have applied to both Unis. I've got an Offer one, still waiting to hear from the other.
- Nottingham has a larger, more green campus
- Warwick has a more student based campus (bigger SU, more student friendly)
- Nottingham is considered more prestigious in regards to law
- however Warwick is a more prestigious institution as a whole

I would have hoped for Warwick to be a little bigger like Nottingham, also, Nottingham is wicked in terms of night life as it has a close city however Warwick is near Coventry and also close to other big cities such as Birmingham.

Ether way, both Unis are equally as amazing and you will not go wrong with ether option!

[ArBell]

(Original post by Eddyward)
Oh i see, Nice!! Is it just me or does it seem like UK universities require a lot more for IB... It seems like a conditional 38 or 39 is a bit high compared to the A level requirements or other diplomas. Unless lot's of people get by with the min, but i doubt that's the case for law. Also what was your HL predictions? cause it seems like UK universities weigh a lot on that :P
I'm hoping for a prediction between 38 - 40 with bonus based on my marks now. I'm thinking about applying to Oxford, LSE, UCL, KCL and Queen Mary or Warrick for Law. Do you think your LNAT's affected anything?

Imo that's kinda true, the UK universities require more from IB students [based from my personal observance: my friends did IB and i did A Levels]. Ands some very brilliant friends who got 38-39 did not get accepted into any universities [for medicine] whereas other less brilliant friends who got As and not A*s got into universities [still medicine] but that might be because of the LSAT or whatever their exam is called...

Imo Nottingham>Warwick.
I've been to Warwick, and I am a student of Manchester. I applied to Nottingham and was going to go there if I hadn't been given an offer from Manchester.
Warwick is too far from everything [you have to cab to Tesco??!], bad nightlife [compared to Manchester - of course] and is too concrete... But there is definitely a greater student-family bond, compared to other universities.
I did A LOT of research on Nottingham and I'm positive it is an amazing university. Great great green and beautiful campus.
Prestige-wise I think that those 2 unis are on par, but Nottingham is in the Russell Group Universities, which gives it an advantage over Warwick.

You should research the specific lecturers in each unis and do a bit of profiling on them. But imo prestige/ranking isn't the most important; you should research on the environment, atmosphere and facilities the uni provides more!

And I think that international students do not have to choose a firm/assurance. I am an international student and didn't have to choose anything of that sorts, only had to choose one uni from all the unconditionals.

Nevertheless, good luck!

[tehforum]

(Original post by ArBell)
Imo that's kinda true, the UK universities require more from IB students [based from my personal observance: my friends did IB and i did A Levels]. Ands some very brilliant friends who got 38-39 did not get accepted into any universities [for medicine] whereas other less brilliant friends who got As and not A*s got into universities [still medicine] but that might be because of the LSAT or whatever their exam is called...

Imo Nottingham>Warwick.
I've been to Warwick, and I am a student of Manchester. I applied to Nottingham and was going to go there if I hadn't been given an offer from Manchester.
Warwick is too far from everything [you have to cab to Tesco??!], bad nightlife [compared to Manchester - of course] and is too concrete... But there is definitely a greater student-family bond, compared to other universities.
I did A LOT of research on Nottingham and I'm positive it is an amazing university. Great great green and beautiful campus.
Prestige-wise I think that those 2 unis are on par, but Nottingham is in the Russell Group Universities, which gives it an advantage over Warwick.

You should research the specific lecturers in each unis and do a bit of profiling on them. But imo prestige/ranking isn't the most important; you should research on the environment, atmosphere and facilities the uni provides more!

And I think that international students do not have to choose a firm/assurance. I am an international student and didn't have to choose anything of that sorts, only had to choose one uni from all the unconditionals.

Nevertheless, good luck!

lolno

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[ta1094]

(Original post by ArBell)
Prestige-wise I think that those 2 unis are on par, but Nottingham is in the Russell Group Universities, which gives it an advantage over Warwick.

Warwick's Russell Group too

[ArBell]

Oups sorry for the mis-information! :/