Hyperbolic Functions Question?

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  1. salmon12345's Avatar
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    Hyperbolic Functions Question?
    Find the real solutions of 3*sinh(x/2) -cosh(x/2)=1

    I subbed in sinh(x/2)=((exp(x/2) -exp(-x/2))/2) and cosh(x/2)=((exp(x/2) +exp(-x/2))/2)

    got down to exp(x/2)-2*exp(-x/2)=1

    then ln(exp(x/2)) - 2ln(exp(-x/2))=ln(1) (***)

    getting 3*x/2=0 therefore x=0 which doesn't work when subbed back in to original equation.

    I'm guessing something is wrong with (***) line?
  2. jack.hadamard's Avatar
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    Re: Hyperbolic Functions Question?
    (Original post by salmon12345)

    got down to exp(x/2)-2*exp(-x/2)=1

    then ln(exp(x/2)) - 2ln(exp(-x/2))=ln(1) (***)
    You cannot do this. Think of quadratic equations at this stage.
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    Re: Hyperbolic Functions Question?
    (Original post by salmon12345)
    Find the real solutions of 3*sinh(x/2) -cosh(x/2)=1

    I subbed in sinh(x/2)=((exp(x/2) -exp(-x/2))/2) and cosh(x/2)=((exp(x/2) +exp(-x/2))/2)

    got down to exp(x/2)-2*exp(-x/2)=1

    then ln(exp(x/2)) - 2ln(exp(-x/2))=ln(1) (***)

    getting 3*x/2=0 therefore x=0 which doesn't work when subbed back in to original equation.

    I'm guessing something is wrong with (***) line?
    If you wanted to natural log you have to natural log the whole side, not term by term. i.e. if we have x + y = 1 then ln(x+y) = ln1, but this does NOT mean lnx + lny = 1.

    Anyway; don't natural log. After the bolded, multiply all terms by e^(x/2) and see where you can go from there.
    Last edited by Intriguing Alias; 03-05-2012 at 22:52.
  4. Hasufel's Avatar
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    Re: Hyperbolic Functions Question?
    you can boil the equation down to p^2-p-2=0, where p=Exp[x/2]

    factorise this - and you might spot a VERY FAMOUS Identity....(which will give ONE result, but not a real one)

    Edit: the other factor should give you the real result - if you take (natural) logs of both sides of it...

    Edit (these will be the principal solutions, like "principal arguments")
    Last edited by Hasufel; 03-05-2012 at 23:13.
  5. salmon12345's Avatar
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    Re: Hyperbolic Functions Question?
    Thanks, I think I've got it.
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