BNP wiped out in elections
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BNP wiped out in electionshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...?newsfeed=true
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsThe BNP were mainly a protest party. Yes, they have quite a few members but I'd wager most voters were simply choosing the BNP as an alternative instead of sharing any great ideologies with them.
As UKIP is getting stronger and actually starting to take things other than Europe remotely seriously, and aren't a bunch of hardcore racists so are publicly acceptable to vote for, I'd imagine they are taking a load of the votes the BNP used to get. -
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someone buy dat griffin mandem a chair cos he'll be standin without a seat for a loooonnng time lolLast edited by sugar-n-spice; 04-05-2012 at 20:21. -
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsWhat's causing it is that they are racist homophobic nazis, no matter how well they try and cover it up(Original post by AkaJetson)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...?newsfeed=true
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsWhile UKIP probably did receive votes from former BNP supporters, it wouldn't be wise to say they were the reason the BNP did crap and UKIP did quite well, when you take into consideration ex-BNP members are not allowed to join UKIP and UKIP is just as opposed to them as everyone else who has common sense.(Original post by callum9999)
The BNP were mainly a protest party. Yes, they have quite a few members but I'd wager most voters were simply choosing the BNP as an alternative instead of sharing any great ideologies with them.
As UKIP is getting stronger and actually starting to take things other than Europe remotely seriously, and aren't a bunch of hardcore racists so are publicly acceptable to vote for, I'd imagine they are taking a load of the votes the BNP used to get. -
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsPolitically UKIP are the closest to BNP. Their membership rules are irrelevant here as pretty much all employers including the army ban people who are members of the BNP.(Original post by Tahooper)
While UKIP probably did receive votes from former BNP supporters, it wouldn't be wise to say they were the reason the BNP did crap and UKIP did quite well, when you take into consideration ex-BNP members are not allowed to join UKIP and UKIP is just as opposed to them as everyone else who has common sense. -
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsI meant it as one of the reasons, not the reason, and you've misunderstood a tiny, but important detail, in what I said. BNP members are really irrelevant in this - I doubt their allegiance has changed. I am talking about the votes the BNP received from non-members (presumably the vast majority) who aren't hardcore supporters of the BNP.(Original post by Tahooper)
While UKIP probably did receive votes from former BNP supporters, it wouldn't be wise to say they were the reason the BNP did crap and UKIP did quite well, when you take into consideration ex-BNP members are not allowed to join UKIP and UKIP is just as opposed to them as everyone else who has common sense.
It certainly isn't the reason, but I don't think it's a coincidence that as the BNP fell, UKIP rose. -
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsI spent a long time trying to work this one out! and.. I've still failed working it out? Surelythey're countering their own argument?(Original post by ocelotrevs)
They were getting desperate and confused from the moment they choose Carlos Cortiglia to run for the London Mayor. The man is from Uruguay.
What's that about?!
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsCareful, don't you don't want to have to make a half-hearted u-turn like Sayeedi today(Original post by callum9999)
The BNP were mainly a protest party. Yes, they have quite a few members but I'd wager most voters were simply choosing the BNP as an alternative instead of sharing any great ideologies with them.
As UKIP is getting stronger and actually starting to take things other than Europe remotely seriously, and aren't a bunch of hardcore racists so are publicly acceptable to vote for, I'd imagine they are taking a load of the votes the BNP used to get.
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsLuckily I'm not, nor will I ever (there is no way I would ever agree to help run the country while the general population is so vitriolic and idiotic) be in a position like her's so I won't have to make U-turns! (I assume she has retracted the comment she made on election night then?)(Original post by Hobo389)
Careful, don't you don't want to have to make a half-hearted u-turn like Sayeedi today
I guess my post has come across the wrong way though. It definitely isn't the main reason - I just don't see it as a coincidence. Maybe I'm wrong, but when you remove the overt BNP racism from the mix, the supporter base of the two parties isn't hugely different. Many of the BNP voters (not members or even really supporters - just voters) last time round probably didn't agree with the racism slant the BNP put on everything, they just wanted to vote for a perceived "real alternative". UKIP has been maturing as a party and are now a much more viable alternative - without the nasty slant.
But I'm no political analyst so what do I know! -
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsHaha(Original post by callum9999)
Luckily I'm not, nor will I ever (there is no way I would ever agree to help run the country while the general population is so vitriolic and idiotic) be in a position like her's so I won't have to make U-turns! (I assume she has retracted the comment she made on election night then?)
I guess my post has come across the wrong way though. It definitely isn't the main reason - I just don't see it as a coincidence. Maybe I'm wrong, but when you remove the overt BNP racism from the mix, the supporter base of the two parties isn't hugely different. Many of the BNP voters (not members or even really supporters - just voters) last time round probably didn't agree with the racism slant the BNP put on everything, they just wanted to vote for a perceived "real alternative". UKIP has been maturing as a party and are now a much more viable alternative - without the nasty slant.
But I'm no political analyst so what do I know!
oh it's all good, I agree with you, we can be useless political analysts together on this one. Well you can, and i'll just nod along...
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsLife would be so much simpler if everyone would just do that!(Original post by Hobo389)
Haha oh it's all good, I agree with you, we can be useless political analysts together on this one. Well you can, and i'll just nod along...
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Re: BNP wiped out in electionsI meant to put "one of the main reasons" not just "the reason".(Original post by callum9999)
I meant it as one of the reasons, not the reason, and you've misunderstood a tiny, but important detail, in what I said. BNP members are really irrelevant in this - I doubt their allegiance has changed. I am talking about the votes the BNP received from non-members (presumably the vast majority) who aren't hardcore supporters of the BNP.
It certainly isn't the reason, but I don't think it's a coincidence that as the BNP fell, UKIP rose.
which is good cause UKIP are far less racist, but will appeal to similar people.
