What motivates people to vote Labour?

Are you suggesting the tories support the underclass as much as labour do?

Also how can you talk about the last 40 years when both parties have become less left and right? They may have been similar for the last 15 years, but not the last 40!

Why? You do know that EMA helped many many young worse off students through college and education? You right wing hypocrites whinge about people not making an effort to educate themselves yet you agree with the taking away of a very very tiny benefit that is what, £10-£30 a week that helps those worse off with travel expenses to college etc?

As I said, the hypocrisy of Tory voters and socio-economic right wingers is astonishing

I shall never forgive the Labour party for what they put my family through during 2009-10. I am interested though in seeing what motivates people to vote for such a damaging party. They damaged the economy, they damaged family values, they damaged people's trust in their government. They damaged everything you can imagine basically. What motivates you to want another Labour Govt? My opinion of Labour voters is that they are extremely selfish and do not care about the good of the long-term economy, as long as they get their handouts courtesy of the taxpayer. Now of course this isn't representative of all Labour voters, but I am at a loss as to explain why they won so many local council seats, and am quite frankly damn worried.

but don't pretend you stand for the same things as the modern day Conservatives.

Well done mate. Took the words right out of my mouth. They are the party of irresponsible lazy excuse makers.
The labour parties vote will always go up as well because they allow so much immigration in from third world and poor countries who they then target for votes.
These people tend to feel a debt of gratitude towards labour for allowing them in and allowing them access to free medical care.
They become life long voters.
Watch a programme called the battle for dagenham.
You'll see a female high ranking labour mp openly admit it.
You'll also see her go to a housing estate and ONLY visit ethnic minorities with a translator and target them for votes while refusing to visit normal homes.

That programme again BATTLE FOR DAGENHAM.

Thats because Cameron isnt a proper conservative. Hannan and Davies are!

Well they just lifted about 2 million of the "underclass" out of tax, so yes, based on that policy alone that is exactly what I am suggesting.

Perhaps 40 was something of an exaggeration, 20 or so might be closer to the mark, but we have to look at the present situation and all the parties support the same things: neoliberalism with a fairly strong welfare state, war in foreign countries and austerity. The extent to which this is the case varies ever so slightly between parties, but not noticeably enough for you to be throwing your weight behind one over the other so forcibly. And they're moving to the left all the time; compared to the Conservative party even of 30 years ago, you're practically supporting socialism already.

Daniel Hannan isn't even a Conservative.

Davies could refer to any number of people. So do you support the "Tories" as you've been saying for about the last ten pages or do you support someone else entirely?

You seem to unwittingly contradict yourself innumerable times in your various posts.

You're opposed to lifting people out of tax, calling it a Liberal Democrat policy, yet you support libertarian economics.

You say Nigel Farage would be an excellent prime minister, yet you admit that you aren't really sure what he stands for.

You also say that doing "as much damage to Britain as possible" is a means to "establish a larger core vote base." I'm not entirely sure how doing as much damage to Britain as possible helps a party to get more fans, but there we have it from you. Perhaps that's why you support the Tories.

Overall I have come to the conclusion that you are misinformed, deluded.........but your turbulent mind can't seem to agree with itself on anything.

Seeing as you say that, with respect to the decision to lift 2 million people out of tax, the Tories are being "blackmailed," I could only assume with such firm and forceful language that you were opposed to the thing they were being "blackmailed" to do, ie. lifting people out of tax. It was a fair inference, perhaps you should have clarified your position on the issue, something I notice you still haven't actually done.

I wrote a whole paragraph detailing where you contradicted yourself. What's the problem? It's right in front of you! You even quoted it in your post!

Seeing as you say that, with respect to the decision to lift 2 million people out of tax, the Tories are being "blackmailed," I could only assume with such firm and forceful language that you were opposed to the thing they were being "blackmailed" to do, ie. lifting people out of tax. It was a fair inference, perhaps you should have clarified your position on the issue, something I notice you still haven't actually done.

Your gushing sentiments about Nigel Farage just prove how false your beliefs are. What you're basically saying is that you've heard a couple of speeches by him and, without knowing any of his policies, have decided that would make him an excellent prime minister. You have been convinced of an entire ideology by demagogy and nothing more. Thomas Jefferson was a crap speaker, but he is still regarded as one of America's best presidents. Perhaps you should try looking behind superficial ramblings before forming conclusions on politicians.

I'm still not quite sure how doing "as much damage to Britain as possible" makes people feel inclined to vote for Labour. How does "ruining education" win votes? How does letting immigrants in who can't vote win votes? The only demographic that remains is your dubious teenage pregnancy group, but I find it difficult to believe that they alone would be enough to win Labour over 800 seats at the recent local elections. This whole paragraph and the unaccounted for points you made in it is stupid anyway, but I think you ought to reevaluate the conclusion you have come to on this matter because it seems misguided and nothing short of ridiculous to me.

I already showed you where you contradicted yourself in the post you just read. It's not my fault you appear to have selectively read an entire paragraph that answered your question the first time.

There's no point assigning current actions to the tories when they are being blackmailed by the lib dems at every decision they make.

Your gushing sentiments about Nigel Farage just prove how false your beliefs are. What you're basically saying is that you've heard a couple of speeches by him and, without knowing any of his policies, have decided that would make him an excellent prime minister. You have been convinced of an entire ideology by demagogy and nothing more. Thomas Jefferson was a crap speaker, but he is still regarded as one of America's best presidents. Perhaps you should try looking behind superficial ramblings before forming conclusions on politicians.

I support Conservativism, but I do not believe Cameron is portraying proper Conservative values. UKIP are certainly more conservative but I have not fully checked out their whole ideology.

Nigel Farage would certainly make one hell of a prime minister.

I'm still not quite sure how doing "as much damage to Britain as possible" makes people feel inclined to vote for Labour. How does "ruining education" win votes? How does letting immigrants in who can't vote win votes? The only demographic that remains is your dubious teenage pregnancy group, but I find it difficult to believe that they alone would be enough to win Labour over 800 seats at the recent local elections. This whole paragraph and the unaccounted for points you made in it is stupid anyway, but I think you ought to reevaluate the conclusion you have come to on this matter because it seems misguided and nothing short of ridiculous to me.

I already showed you where you contradicted yourself in the post you just read. It's not my fault you appear to have selectively read an entire paragraph that answered your question the first time.

SDLP = against N Ireland being part of Britain
UUP = for N Ireland being part of Britain

It doesnt look good when a party who are against the United Kingdom following the whip of the party who were in Government of the United Kingdom!

Where did I say it's not a proper job?

I said its not a job for life- as in, dont leave school and snub qualifications, aged 14, to do it....

The economics teacher thing or the NHS stats ? If so both are 100% true.