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Can God be judged based on social impact?

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    Most prominent atheists today argue against religion mainly based on 2 premises:

    1) there is no evidence for God
    2) religion leads to bad things

    These two premises have been around for a long time but people like Hitchens, Harris and Dawkins use them quite regularly in argue against atheism.

    My question is, can such arguments be used to refute religion and/or God? Can the social impact of a religion be used to refute the existence of God? Or is the social impact irrelevant to whether God exists or not because the social impact is a result of human action?

    People like soverignchancellor post threads on this forum about taking the God to court and all that gibberish but the entire premise of those threads is to show all the bad social impacts that religion can have. Are these even relevant to the objective truth of whether God exists?
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    (Original post by .eXe)
    Most prominent atheists today argue against religion mainly based on 2 premises:

    1) there is no evidence for God
    2) religion leads to bad things

    These two premises have been around for a long time but people like Hitchens, Harris and Dawkins use them quite regularly in argue against atheism.

    My question is, can such arguments be used to refute religion and/or God? Can the social impact of a religion be used to refute the existence of God? Or is the social impact irrelevant to whether God exists or not because the social impact is a result of human action?

    People like soverignchancellor post threads on this forum about taking the God to court and all that gibberish but the entire premise of those threads is to show all the bad social impacts that religion can have. Are these even relevant to the objective truth of whether God exists?
    The first one can. Impact of religion isn't so much an argument against the existance of a God, but more againt having faith in one - it's sort of an argument against the 'atheists have no morals' argument.
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    (Original post by .eXe)
    Or is the social impact irrelevant to whether God exists or not because the social impact is a result of human action?
    This, imho :yes:

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