Medicine at Trinity College Dublin
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Re: Medicine at Trinity College Dublin
Here is the webpage with the minimum requirements and points cut off from last year: http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergradu...rse.php?id=187
Medicine in Ireland is extremely competitive. The points cutoff was 730 last year. I'm not sure what points the A levels are awarded but I think the maximum is 160 points per subject. You then have to combine the points from you subjects with the score form your HPAT. It is kind of like the UKCAT but a bit longer. If your combined score is greater then the cut off point you will be offered a place.
I should point out however that the cut off point changes each year depending on the quality of applicants. -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinI have applied this year, so here's the info you need(Original post by panda8714)
Hey
Can anyone give me an average offer for medicine at TCD?
Also, would three A2's be acceptable or not?
Thanks
They don't give out offers, you get points based on your A-level grades and an extra test called the HPAT, and if you're above a cutoff, you get a place on results day. your A-level grades are out of 565, and HPAT out of 300, and for Trinity last year you needed 739 points, so the higher you get in the HPAT the less you need from your A-levels.
A* at A level are 150 points, As are 135, Bs 120 etc. You also get 25 extra points for A level maths.
After yo have reached 550 points from your grades, every 5 points you get actually count for 1, so for e.g. if I get 580 points, that gets scaled down to 556.
You then add your HPAT score onto your points from grades. Although they don't say you need 4A2s, to get enough points you definitely need them.
For example: I got 191/300 in the HPAT, and from grades I will most likely get A*maths ABB - 550 points so overall 741 points, which would have got me into Trinity last year, but unlikely this year as points go up around 8 each year
Any more questions, just ask
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Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinThanks so much for your help(Original post by InkyOne)
I have applied this year, so here's the info you need
They don't give out offers, you get points based on your A-level grades and an extra test called the HPAT, and if you're above a cutoff, you get a place on results day. your A-level grades are out of 565, and HPAT out of 300, and for Trinity last year you needed 739 points, so the higher you get in the HPAT the less you need from your A-levels.
A* at A level are 150 points, As are 135, Bs 120 etc. You also get 25 extra points for A level maths.
After yo have reached 550 points from your grades, every 5 points you get actually count for 1, so for e.g. if I get 580 points, that gets scaled down to 556.
You then add your HPAT score onto your points from grades. Although they don't say you need 4A2s, to get enough points you definitely need them.
For example: I got 191/300 in the HPAT, and from grades I will most likely get A*maths ABB - 550 points so overall 741 points, which would have got me into Trinity last year, but unlikely this year as points go up around 8 each year
Any more questions, just ask
So, was the HPAT really difficult then, any more so than the UKCAT?
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Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinI thought it was more of a test of intelligence than the UKCAT - I got about the same in both, but I found that in answering the HPAT questions it was more a challenge of my mind, whereas the UKCAT was more challenging my speed reading and mental maths. - to show how they compare, I got 687 in the UKCAT and 191 in the HPAT, and I know someone in the 630s UKCAT and 170s HPAT.(Original post by panda8714)
Thanks so much for your help
So, was the HPAT really difficult then, any more so than the UKCAT?
The HPAT has 3 sections, the 1st is like a normal intelligence test, the 2nd is about interpretations of inter-personal relationships, i.e. they give a scenario then ask what the characters are feeling/thinking etc. (That bit's actually quite fun, but my worst section lol) the 3rd section is like a normal non-verbal reading test.
I didn't do the BMAT, but apparently the HPAT is more similar to the BMAT than the UKCAT. -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinJust wondering how did you practice for the HPAT?(Original post by InkyOne)
I thought it was more of a test of intelligence than the UKCAT - I got about the same in both, but I found that in answering the HPAT questions it was more a challenge of my mind, whereas the UKCAT was more challenging my speed reading and mental maths. - to show how they compare, I got 687 in the UKCAT and 191 in the HPAT, and I know someone in the 630s UKCAT and 170s HPAT.
The HPAT has 3 sections, the 1st is like a normal intelligence test, the 2nd is about interpretations of inter-personal relationships, i.e. they give a scenario then ask what the characters are feeling/thinking etc. (That bit's actually quite fun, but my worst section lol) the 3rd section is like a normal non-verbal reading test.
I didn't do the BMAT, but apparently the HPAT is more similar to the BMAT than the UKCAT. -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinI did a course called 'medentry', it was really expensive though, but for me, worth it, as I never do as much practice for stuff as I intend (if any) and it really gave me a firm basis for the HPAT. There are other options such as an online subscription with tutorials and practice questions and papers too.(Original post by NoFunnyBusiness)
Just wondering how did you practice for the HPAT? -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinHow much was it? Did you also get resources from ACER? When do you find out you've been given a place?(Original post by InkyOne)
I did a course called 'medentry', it was really expensive though, but for me, worth it, as I never do as much practice for stuff as I intend (if any) and it really gave me a firm basis for the HPAT. There are other options such as an online subscription with tutorials and practice questions and papers too. -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinWell done for getting into Medicine!(Original post by maherro)
Here is the webpage with the minimum requirements and points cut off from last year: http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergradu...rse.php?id=187
Medicine in Ireland is extremely competitive. The points cutoff was 730 last year. I'm not sure what points the A levels are awarded but I think the maximum is 160 points per subject. You then have to combine the points from you subjects with the score form your HPAT. It is kind of like the UKCAT but a bit longer. If your combined score is greater then the cut off point you will be offered a place.
I should point out however that the cut off point changes each year depending on the quality of applicants.
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Re: Medicine at Trinity College Dublinfrom what I remember, 500 euro ish for the course and the resources, for just the resources its about 200 euro. I didn't bother with the resources from ACER, as they are only 2 past papers, and sedentary gave me tonnes. I find out a couple of days after results day, but luckily I have Newcastle and Kings offers as insurance!(Original post by NoFunnyBusiness)
How much was it? Did you also get resources from ACER? When do you find out you've been given a place? -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinWOW, I got all four rejections this year, so going to take a gap year. What did you get for your UKCAT grade? And if you don't mind me asking how did you revise for that too?(Original post by InkyOne)
from what I remember, 500 euro ish for the course and the resources, for just the resources its about 200 euro. I didn't bother with the resources from ACER, as they are only 2 past papers, and sedentary gave me tonnes. I find out a couple of days after results day, but luckily I have Newcastle and Kings offers as insurance!
Also I know you aren't allowed to talk about specific questions, but what was your King's interview like, what kind of questions were they - ethics/personal statement stuff? -
Re: Medicine at Trinity College DublinBad luck! I hope I can help for next year!(Original post by NoFunnyBusiness)
WOW, I got all four rejections this year, so going to take a gap year. What did you get for your UKCAT grade? And if you don't mind me asking how did you revise for that too?
Also I know you aren't allowed to talk about specific questions, but what was your King's interview like, what kind of questions were they - ethics/personal statement stuff?
So for my UKCAT I got 687.5, not ace, but for King's I think my GCSEs made up for it due to their sliding scale thing. I bought the online resources from ace medicine to revise and just practiced a bit, wish I did it at the beginning of the summer not the end! But I talked to people who did a kaplan course, and they said it was very good.
I'm pretty sure I signed something at the beginning of my King's interview to say that I can't talk about it, and i'm not sure to what degree they meant that I can't talk about it, but in general, and from talking to other applicants, I think that everything in general is covered that you'd expect in a medicine interview, but you may not get everything in one interview. If that makes sense? So I think overall they cover everything, but in each interview just a small part, so what comes up is pretty random.
