[skylight17]

After reading the other thread I am still a little confused as to whether this is an option... I just wanted to ask/clarify with people who have had or are having experiences with applying to Medicine in another country, and also where I should be focusing my reserach (as in which unis are the most well known for UK students to attend).

Thanks

[.eXe]

You can apply to any school abroad. The main ones people go to are the Caribbean schools (Ross, St. George, Saba, AUC). However it is well know that they are for-profit schools and their tuition fees are absolutely insane.

There are obviously options in the EU, many schools in eastern europe have med schools (poland, croatia, hungary, etc) and you can also try there. over here there can be a language barrier because although courses are taught in english, the patients you meet will most certainly not speak english so that can be an issue.

Also, you can try Irish schools, and western europe like denmark, holland, italy, france, etc,etc,etc. the opportunities are endless but each country has downsides (mainly: language barrier).

dont even think about going to america or canada unless you are the top student in the country or something...the requirements are absolutely impossible not to mention the fees are very high.

in addition, our schools here require an undergrad degree before doing medicine, you cant go straight from high school.

hope this helps.

[Dhill94]

outreach education is the uk representative for med schools in bulgaria where it is very cheap to stay (tuition is 4500GBP per year and living costs total about 3000GBP) 6 hours of Bulgarian lessons are provided for years one and two and the language must be picked up to a good level by year 3 when clinicals start.

Alternatively, malta also is a very popular choice. As English is a native language there is no language barrier. Additionally, tuition fees are free for all eu students here (but living costs mount to 9000 GBP approx) Applications to here cost 95 euros tho so be certain before you apply (Application must be submitted by March 30th though!!)

I have applied to both these schools as well as four Irish ones. Best of luck to you, hope this is helpful.

[tofayelbd]

(Original post by Dhill94)
outreach education is the uk representative for med schools in bulgaria where it is very cheap to stay (tuition is 4500GBP per year and living costs total about 3000GBP) 6 hours of Bulgarian lessons are provided for years one and two and the language must be picked up to a good level by year 3 when clinicals start.

Alternatively, malta also is a very popular choice. As English is a native language there is no language barrier. Additionally, tuition fees are free for all eu students here (but living costs mount to 9000 GBP approx) Applications to here cost 95 euros tho so be certain before you apply (Application must be submitted by March 30th though!!)

I have applied to both these schools as well as four Irish ones. Best of luck to you, hope this is helpful.

But we should think world recognition also, not only cost.

[Dhill94]

(Original post by tofayelbd)
But we should think world recognition also, not only cost.

Of course you should. The degrees offered by these uni's will allow you registration with the GMC without any further examinations. But cost is also very important (for those who aren't mega rich) as if you can't afford to complete the degree then it would be silly to start it!

[StarsAreFixed]

Trinity College Dublin has great international recognition as a top university. It costs about €2500 per year at the moment. Requirements are very high, you will need A*A*A*A, preferably A*A*A*A*. You can't use 3 and an AS as you can for most courses in Ireland as the points requirements is too high. It is probably the uni outside of the UK with the highest number of UK applicants, it's so close to the UK, much much cheaper, great reputation and English is the main language. You apply through the CAO, www.cao.ie applications open in November and close the following February. It costs €35. There is a late-entry but Medicine has to be done before February because of the entrance exam it has. You are not guaranteed to get it even with A*A*A*A*- competition is fierce. Absolutely worth applying for though.

You will not hear from Trinity (or one of the other 4 med schools here) until offers come via the CAO in August and you are offered medicine and accept it. The CAO do everything in the meantime, they are the middleman. No personal statement, no predicted grades. Just your choices on your form and then your actual grades, which they use to calculate points from. Because Medicine is unlike every other course in that your result in the entrance exam is added onto it, it is difficult to say how many points you need (out of a maximum of 600= 4 A*s) because they give the points as the total- ie. think it's around 730 they want. The demand for medicine is so high that you cannot hope to get it with 530-540 points (A*AAA approx.).

If you search Trinity College Dublin here and limit it to the international study forum to get rid of the people talking about Cambridge, then you'll find loads of posts I've made about it. Trinity, Dublin, CAO, points requirements etc.

Here is the CAO handbook which is a must-read.
http://www2.cao.ie/handbook/handbook/index.php
UK requirements and grade-points converter
http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...culation/gcse/
Medicine course page
http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergradu...rse.php?id=187

The other Irish med schools are University College Dublin, Royal College Surgeons Ireland, University College Cork and University College Galway.

[Dhill94]

(Original post by StarsAreFixed)
Trinity College Dublin has great international recognition as a top university. It costs about €2500 per year at the moment. Requirements are very high, you will need A*A*A*A, preferably A*A*A*A*. You can't use 3 and an AS as you can for most courses in Ireland as the points requirements is too high. It is probably the uni outside of the UK with the highest number of UK applicants, it's so close to the UK, much much cheaper, great reputation and English is the main language. You apply through the CAO, www.cao.ie applications open in November and close the following February. It costs €35. There is a late-entry but Medicine has to be done before February because of the entrance exam it has. You are not guaranteed to get it even with A*A*A*A*- competition is fierce. Absolutely worth applying for though.

You will not hear from Trinity (or one of the other 4 med schools here) until offers come via the CAO in August and you are offered medicine and accept it. The CAO do everything in the meantime, they are the middleman. No personal statement, no predicted grades. Just your choices on your form and then your actual grades, which they use to calculate points from. Because Medicine is unlike every other course in that your result in the entrance exam is added onto it, it is difficult to say how many points you need (out of a maximum of 600= 4 A*s) because they give the points as the total- ie. think it's around 730 they want. The demand for medicine is so high that you cannot hope to get it with 530-540 points (A*AAA approx.).

If you search Trinity College Dublin here and limit it to the international study forum to get rid of the people talking about Cambridge, then you'll find loads of posts I've made about it. Trinity, Dublin, CAO, points requirements etc.

Here is the CAO handbook which is a must-read.
http://www2.cao.ie/handbook/handbook/index.php
UK requirements and grade-points converter
http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...culation/gcse/
Medicine course page
http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergradu...rse.php?id=187

The other Irish med schools are University College Dublin, Royal College Surgeons Ireland, University College Cork and University College Galway.

Can you apply late for Dentistry? I am interested in both medicine and dentistry and I would consider applying late if this was the case.

[StarsAreFixed]

Yes, Dentistry is fine. It's called Dental Science in Trinity but it doesn't make a difference (they like to be odd with degree titles but it doesn't diminish them..for example you get a B.A in Science, not a B.Sc). It is 580 and not everyone who got 580 got in, so Dentistry needs A*A*A*A* and nothing less. Be aware that you need to list them exactly as how you want them, and not what you think you can get. So if you prefer medicine, keep it first. You can never be offered Dentistry if you put it second and actually preferred it if you fulil the points and requirements for medicine as your first choice- even if you don't accept the place. So be careful with the order.

[Dhill94]

(Original post by StarsAreFixed)
Yes, Dentistry is fine. It's called Dental Science in Trinity but it doesn't make a difference (they like to be odd with degree titles but it doesn't diminish them..for example you get a B.A in Science, not a B.Sc). It is 580 and not everyone who got 580 got in, so Dentistry needs A*A*A*A* and nothing less. Be aware that you need to list them exactly as how you want them, and not what you think you can get. So if you prefer medicine, keep it first. You can never be offered Dentistry if you put it second and actually preferred it if you fulil the points and requirements for medicine as your first choice- even if you don't accept the place. So be careful with the order.

Thank you. I'll look into it and hopefully apply. I'm a Scottish Student and you can only do a maximum of 3 subjects in 6th year (final year of school) and you do not get A* (A is the maximum grade) but I assume the college will have a separate admissions policy for Scots.

[StarsAreFixed]

It's here http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...ther/#scotland

It looks the same, maximum grades. You still need to satisfy English, Maths and another language- not all at your final exams, the exams before that when you do more subjects is fine- this is how it works for the UK also (not Ireland, we do 7 subjects at final-year level, with 4 compulsory containing those subjects and Irish). I would email the International Office or Admissions and enquire about Dentistry- the points equivalence for 550 points seems to be maximum grades, and you need more than that. The problem with that is grades, only having A,B and C doesn't work brilliantly with the system. I doubt it is impossible to get Dentistry doing Scottish Highers but worth an enquiry.

[TooSexyForMyStethoscope]

(Original post by Dhill94)
Thank you. I'll look into it and hopefully apply. I'm a Scottish Student and you can only do a maximum of 3 subjects in 6th year (final year of school) and you do not get A* (A is the maximum grade) but I assume the college will have a separate admissions policy for Scots.

Lots of people do more than 3 subjects in their 6th year. I did 3AHs and a Higher, someone else in my year did 3AHs and an Int2 and someone even did 4AHs.

[Dhill94]

(Original post by StarsAreFixed)
It's here http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...ther/#scotland

It looks the same, maximum grades. You still need to satisfy English, Maths and another language- not all at your final exams, the exams before that when you do more subjects is fine- this is how it works for the UK also (not Ireland, we do 7 subjects at final-year level, with 4 compulsory containing those subjects and Irish). I would email the International Office or Admissions and enquire about Dentistry- the points equivalence for 550 points seems to be maximum grades, and you need more than that. The problem with that is grades, only having A,B and C doesn't work brilliantly with the system. I doubt it is impossible to get Dentistry doing Scottish Highers but worth an enquiry.

I have contacted them and they have said that I already have 435 points from my current qualifications (AAAAB at highers) and maximum grades this year would get me 610. For each grade I am short of absolute maximum I lose 20 points, therefore I would have 590 for AAB and 570 for ABB. Cheers for letting us know about this option, may well define not only where I go to, but ensure I follow a career path I have always dreamed of.

[StarsAreFixed]

You can only have a maximum of 600 for any course, not 610. This is different for medicine and for portfolio courses, but only because the maximum of 600 is having other things piled onto it, 600 always remains the same. Anyway best of luck with your choice!

[Soul_Eater]

it's too late to apply for medicine in TCD this year right?

[Dhill94]

(Original post by TooSexyForMyStethoscope)
Lots of people do more than 3 subjects in their 6th year. I did 3AHs and a Higher, someone else in my year did 3AHs and an Int2 and someone even did 4AHs.

It must be a school policy we have then.

[azcar121]

(Original post by StarsAreFixed)
It's here http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...ther/#scotland

It looks the same, maximum grades. You still need to satisfy English, Maths and another language- not all at your final exams, the exams before that when you do more subjects is fine- this is how it works for the UK also (not Ireland, we do 7 subjects at final-year level, with 4 compulsory containing those subjects and Irish). I would email the International Office or Admissions and enquire about Dentistry- the points equivalence for 550 points seems to be maximum grades, and you need more than that. The problem with that is grades, only having A,B and C doesn't work brilliantly with the system. I doubt it is impossible to get Dentistry doing Scottish Highers but worth an enquiry.

studying abroad isn't a bad idea. I am a UK student and i'm going to Spain in september to study Dentistry. I don't know if you have considered Valencia in Spain, but the course is taught in english, which is good. I met up with the guy who runs the agency recruiting students, and he gave me a website which explains everything. i can't really talk about anyone else, but given my circumstances, definitely not going to regret the move. this is the website he gave me: www.gdc-spain.com

[StarsAreFixed]

(Original post by Soul_Eater)
it's too late to apply for medicine in TCD this year right?

Yes, and it was when you posted this. Medicine is restricted-entry, which means it has to be in Feb 1st and not the late closing date of May 1st. This is because of the HPAT aptitude test which has already taken place. Every other course that is not mature-entry and does not require a portfolio is allowable though.

[StarsAreFixed]

(Original post by azcar121)
studying abroad isn't a bad idea. I am a UK student and i'm going to Spain in september to study Dentistry. I don't know if you have considered Valencia in Spain, but the course is taught in english, which is good. I met up with the guy who runs the agency recruiting students, and he gave me a website which explains everything. i can't really talk about anyone else, but given my circumstances, definitely not going to regret the move. this is the website he gave me: www.gdc-spain.com

I think you're quoting the wrong person? I'm not interested in studying abroad. I just offer advice on Irish applications. Plenty of people if they are looking outside of the UK think immediately of english-speaking courses in mainland europe and forget about Ireland, which especially in the case of Trinity, has universities of much more renown which always helps. I understand that it is out of the question for a lot of people as the grade requirements are much higher than in the UK though. Best of luck.

[billykwok]

(Original post by StarsAreFixed)
Trinity College Dublin has great international recognition as a top university. It costs about €2500 per year at the moment. Requirements are very high, you will need A*A*A*A, preferably A*A*A*A*. You can't use 3 and an AS as you can for most courses in Ireland as the points requirements is too high. It is probably the uni outside of the UK with the highest number of UK applicants, it's so close to the UK, much much cheaper, great reputation and English is the main language. You apply through the CAO, www.cao.ie applications open in November and close the following February. It costs €35. There is a late-entry but Medicine has to be done before February because of the entrance exam it has. You are not guaranteed to get it even with A*A*A*A*- competition is fierce. Absolutely worth applying for though.

You will not hear from Trinity (or one of the other 4 med schools here) until offers come via the CAO in August and you are offered medicine and accept it. The CAO do everything in the meantime, they are the middleman. No personal statement, no predicted grades. Just your choices on your form and then your actual grades, which they use to calculate points from. Because Medicine is unlike every other course in that your result in the entrance exam is added onto it, it is difficult to say how many points you need (out of a maximum of 600= 4 A*s) because they give the points as the total- ie. think it's around 730 they want. The demand for medicine is so high that you cannot hope to get it with 530-540 points (A*AAA approx.).

If you search Trinity College Dublin here and limit it to the international study forum to get rid of the people talking about Cambridge, then you'll find loads of posts I've made about it. Trinity, Dublin, CAO, points requirements etc.

Here is the CAO handbook which is a must-read.
http://www2.cao.ie/handbook/handbook/index.php
UK requirements and grade-points converter
http://www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergr...culation/gcse/
Medicine course page
http://www.tcd.ie/courses/undergradu...rse.php?id=187

The other Irish med schools are University College Dublin, Royal College Surgeons Ireland, University College Cork and University College Galway.

Lol I wouldn't call Trinity "great" and "international top university". Maybe regionally, but definitely not internationally, especially with the medical school - coming from a TCD 4th year medical student with a MSc in neuroscience.
But you are right on the points, they are ridiculously high.

Whether it is worth applying for TCD is a matter of personal opinion. But from my point of view, if you can achieve such grades/ points, why not just apply to better/ well known universities like oxbridge/ edinburgh/ imperial instead of being stuck in TCD? - The only reason why I went to TCD was that I did not receive any offers from UK universities when I was doing my A levels, as the universities give out interviews according to predicted grades (which was straight B's and C's in my case). After I got my results, I did not want to waste a year and reapply to medicine, which is why I ended up in TCD.

[honeybeeangel]

hey,

not sure if this the rite thread to post it but i'm in the situation where I have an offer from a uk medical school and from an eu medical school.

As a graduate the tuition fees in the uk are phenomenal compared to studying abroad (i'm not rich and have jst abt enough for the first few years). I like both schools but can't decide which to go for.

is it better to stay in the uk if you have the chance. or think about money and go for the cheaper option abroad?