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What Would YOU Do? Help!Hi Guys!
I know its 3am, but that makes this more relevant. Tonight, I was in a nightclub with my friends and I saw a 6th Former that I regularly teach. I ignored him and pretended that I didn't see him (going to the toilet if he came close). However, later, I was dancing next to him, and he got in a fight. Some random was "starting on him" so I grabbed his shoulders, looked him in the eye and said "stop X, stop" (X being his name). My friends then dragged me away.
I understand why my friends dragged me away - they didn't know who he was, or why I was "getting involved", but later on one of my teacher friends said that I shouldn't get involved.
What do you think was right? In my place, if I had stayed out he would have got in a fight, and I stopped this. To my friend, I was out of order by "getting involved". What would you do? -
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!Yep, school is finished, but you did what you did because he's younger than you. You may have done a something similar if there had been another younger person there. I think you did the right thing and he should thank you for it. I got between two fighting girls on the high street once as I knew them both. The police said a thank you straight away as they had been called by others not brave enough to intervene. Their parents are for ever grateful as it means their daughters don't have a caution on their records!(Original post by linkdapink)
Hi Guys!
I know its 3am, but that makes this more relevant. Tonight, I was in a nightclub with my friends and I saw a 6th Former that I regularly teach. I ignored him and pretended that I didn't see him (going to the toilet if he came close). However, later, I was dancing next to him, and he got in a fight. Some random was "starting on him" so I grabbed his shoulders, looked him in the eye and said "stop X, stop" (X being his name). My friends then dragged me away.
I understand why my friends dragged me away - they didn't know who he was, or why I was "getting involved", but later on one of my teacher friends said that I shouldn't get involved.
What do you think was right? In my place, if I had stayed out he would have got in a fight, and I stopped this. To my friend, I was out of order by "getting involved". What would you do? -
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!You haven't done anything wrong.(Original post by linkdapink)
Hi Guys!
I know its 3am, but that makes this more relevant. Tonight, I was in a nightclub with my friends and I saw a 6th Former that I regularly teach. I ignored him and pretended that I didn't see him (going to the toilet if he came close). However, later, I was dancing next to him, and he got in a fight. Some random was "starting on him" so I grabbed his shoulders, looked him in the eye and said "stop X, stop" (X being his name). My friends then dragged me away.
I understand why my friends dragged me away - they didn't know who he was, or why I was "getting involved", but later on one of my teacher friends said that I shouldn't get involved.
What do you think was right? In my place, if I had stayed out he would have got in a fight, and I stopped this. To my friend, I was out of order by "getting involved". What would you do?
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!I was in Uni today, so we had a rare mid-week night out to celebrate being "off" today (despite having to go in at 9am still!) heehee! There's no way I would be able to manage that sort of thing! Thankfully, with Y11/Y12/Y13 all being on study leave, my timetable has been halved, as well as the school doing some new things this week, meaning I only have to plan for 4 hours next week!(Original post by Mr M)
You haven't done anything wrong.
The real question is how do you have the energy to go clubbing until the early hours of the morning on a school night?
Thanks everyone for responding positively
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!I know that he is over 18, luckily. Otherwise, it would have been a much worse situation to be in. In my eyes, I just stopped him fighting.(Original post by ProStacker)
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!I probably would have done the same to be honest as I can understand you just wanted to help, BUT I can understand where the other teacher was coming from. Luckily what you said did stop the fight but what if the guy had turned on you instead and you ended up fighting with a student? Then everyone would say you shouldn't have got involved. Or if the guy he was going to fight with started on you aswell?
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!Yeah, I can see it from his opinion too. I HAD judged the situation before, there were bouncers nearby (closing in actually), but I wanted the kid to get out of there and not get into more trouble than he needed to be in. Oh well... its all over now, the kid isn't even at the school any more (well... "study leave") so I can't see there being a massive problem tbh.(Original post by rach2012)
I probably would have done the same to be honest as I can understand you just wanted to help, BUT I can understand where the other teacher was coming from. Luckily what you said did stop the fight but what if the guy had turned on you instead and you ended up fighting with a student? Then everyone would say you shouldn't have got involved. Or if the guy he was going to fight with started on you aswell? -
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Re: What Would YOU Do? Help!Unfortunately, it doesn't for teachers.(Original post by NotNineteenForever)
School finishes at 3.30pm.
As a teacher, you're a member of a profession and cannot bring it into disrepute. Although it's arguable that being in the same club as an over-18 pupil isn't wrong, it's still dodgy ground.(Original post by New teaching standards)
Teachers uphold public trust in the profession and maintain high standards of ethics and behaviour, within and outside school, by:
o treating pupils with dignity, building relationships rooted in mutual respect, and at all times observing proper boundaries appropriate to a teacher’s professional position
o having regard for the need to safeguard pupils’ well-being, in accordance with statutory provisions
http://media.education.gov.uk/assets...ber%202012.pdf
Personally, I'd've left the club as soon as I saw one of my pupils there, particularly if they were of the opposite sex.
One of the reasons (and there were many) that I moved to Primary education from secondary is that I was fed up of bumping into my pupils in pubs and around town.
Now, if I see them in pubs, at least they're with their parents.
