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  1. Shakaa's Avatar
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    Upgrading old PC
    I have owned my current pc tower for 4 years now, It hasn't been a problem for the past few years because I just haven't played games, however I am looking at getting back into gaming BF3/Diablo etc

    I am however on a budget, so I was thinking of buying a Gaming bundle and a new graphics card from overclockers or some similar site and just upgrading, I might be wrong but it seems this gives me effectively a new computer without spending a pretty substantial chunk of my budget on a new tower/fan.

    Can I do this or would I need to upgrades my fans/buy a new case so it would all fit etc?

    My budget is around 400/500 for a for a gaming bundle/gfx card that would be capable of easily taking on any current games, so if anyone has any recommendations feel free.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Shakaa)
    I have owned my current pc tower for 4 years now, It hasn't been a problem for the past few years because I just haven't played games, however I am looking at getting back into gaming BF3/Diablo etc

    I am however on a budget, so I was thinking of buying a Gaming bundle and a new graphics card from overclockers or some similar site and just upgrading, I might be wrong but it seems this gives me effectively a new computer without spending a pretty substantial chunk of my budget on a new tower/fan.

    Can I do this or would I need to upgrades my fans/buy a new case so it would all fit etc?

    My budget is around 400/500 for a for a gaming bundle/gfx card that would be capable of easily taking on any current games, so if anyone has any recommendations feel free.
    As long as you've got a normal sized midi or full tower you'll be fine. So is it just the processor, motherboard and graphics card or are we needing RAM and HDD as well (if your ram is a fair bit slower than 1333MHz I'd probably say it's worth upgrading as 8GB of 1600 costs about £35)?
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by hassi94)
    As long as you've got a normal sized midi or full tower you'll be fine. So is it just the processor, motherboard and graphics card or are we needing RAM and HDD as well (if your ram is a fair bit slower than 1333MHz I'd probably say it's worth upgrading as 8GB of 1600 costs about £35)?
    I currently have 2GB(not sure on the speed), I was thinking of getting this bundle;

    CPU: AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 3.60GHz @ 4.00GHz
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
    - Cooler: Prolimatech Lynx CPU Cooler

    And the gfx card,
    HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card


    Would this be handle the latest games?
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by hassi94)
    As long as you've got a normal sized midi or full tower you'll be fine. So is it just the processor, motherboard and graphics card or are we needing RAM and HDD as well (if your ram is a fair bit slower than 1333MHz I'd probably say it's worth upgrading as 8GB of 1600 costs about £35)?

    I already have a HDD although I might buy a cheap solid state drive in addition to the one I already have.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Shakaa)
    I currently have 2GB(not sure on the speed), I was thinking of getting this bundle;

    CPU: AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 3.60GHz @ 4.00GHz
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
    - Cooler: Prolimatech Lynx CPU Cooler

    And the gfx card,
    HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card


    Would this be handle the latest games?
    Hmm, somewhat but I'm very put off by the AMD's performance. It's 10% weaker than a dual core 3.4GHz sandy bridge i3.

    The graphics card is a very decent one (and the best you can get in that price range) which should the newest games on high settings.

    If you get something a bit more high performance as a processor e.g. i5 2500k for £150, motherboard for £70 (there are plenty of decent ones either z68 or z77), 180 for the graphics card and that's £400. You can get a 120GB SSD for £65 and RAM for £35 so you might be going a bit over budget with the cooler but not much. I think it's definitely worth the extra for an i5 2500k.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Hmm, somewhat but I'm very put off by the AMD's performance. It's 10% weaker than a dual core 3.4GHz sandy bridge i3.

    The graphics card is a very decent one (and the best you can get in that price range) which should the newest games on high settings.

    If you get something a bit more high performance as a processor e.g. i5 2500k for £150, motherboard for £70 (there are plenty of decent ones either z68 or z77), 180 for the graphics card and that's £400. You can get a 120GB SSD for £65 and RAM for £35 so you might be going a bit over budget with the cooler but not much. I think it's definitely worth the extra for an i5 2500k.
    Sounds good, I would probably have to use my current HDD for a while although that's not a problem.
    Last edited by Shakaa; 19-05-2012 at 09:26.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    Yeh, though i'd personally go for the GTX 570. I know it's a last generation card, and the 7850 is newer, but for about £20 more, the 570 is a little bit faster.

    Also, go for an Asus motherboard, probably the most reliable. I would advise against MSI, I've had a few and they break.

    Also for gaming, would you consider Intel, I mean as far as overclocking goes, they are far superior. But to be honest, if you go for sandy/ivy, I doubt you would need to OC.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...hdmi-micro-atx - MicroATX = smaller cases = £87

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(...-9-24-xmp-150v = £39 or 4GB £25

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-x...-dvi-i-hdmi-2x = £189 - £210

    For the processor, not much of a difference between sandy and Ivy, but it will cost you between 150-250 depending on i5 or i7. Unless you are doing a lot of processor intensive photogrpahy/ studio work... i5 is more than enough.

    My cooler is really good, cool and very quiet... it is the artic cooling freezer 7. Its about £15

    Aslo this case if you would consider a new one
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/lian-...e-sata-w-o-psu - £70

    In total, about £600, but it's a very decent build.
    Last edited by samjj8; 19-05-2012 at 13:58.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Shakaa)
    I currently have 2GB(not sure on the speed), I was thinking of getting this bundle;

    CPU: AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 3.60GHz @ 4.00GHz
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte 970A-UD3 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel
    - Cooler: Prolimatech Lynx CPU Cooler

    And the gfx card,
    HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card


    Would this be handle the latest games?
    AMD have issues with their new fx processors, people will tell you to get the i5 2500k in all honesty. But it will cost quite a bit more.

    How much does your card cost? A similar Sapphire version costs £180

    Have you also factored in your current power supply, how powerful is it?
    Cos if it's not around 500+watt you'll need a new one.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by samjj8)
    Yeh, though i'd personally go for the GTX 570. I know it's a last generation card, and the 7850 is newer, but for about £20 more, the 570 is a little bit faster.
    The 570 is a tad better but it uses so much more power and runs a lot hotter so it won't OC as much
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Iqbal007)
    AMD have issues with their new fx processors, people will tell you to get the i5 2500k in all honesty. But it will cost quite a bit more.

    How much does your card cost? A similar Sapphire version costs £180

    Have you also factored in your current power supply, how powerful is it?
    Cos if it's not around 500+watt you'll need a new one.
    The card is 180 on overclockers, it was 200 but at some point during the day they knocked it down to 180.

    As far as the cpu goes its looking like I will go for the 2500k, I have 2 spare power supplys, one of them is in my old gaming rig think it has a 1000 watt supply.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Shakaa)
    The card is 180 on overclockers, it was 200 but at some point during the day they knocked it down to 180.

    As far as the cpu goes its looking like I will go for the 2500k, I have 2 spare power supplys, one of them is in my old gaming rig think it has a 1000 watt supply.
    As long as it's £180 it's worth it and not using the stock cooler.

    CPU should be fine, minor difference between it and the new version. And is the new supply 80plus certified and working properly?
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Iqbal007)
    As long as it's £180 it's worth it and not using the stock cooler.

    CPU should be fine, minor difference between it and the new version. And is the new supply 80plus certified and working properly?
    Just took it out turns out its only 400W, it's looking unlikely I have a 500W+ supply as its unlikely my current rig has one.
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    Re: Upgrading old PC
    (Original post by Shakaa)
    Just took it out turns out its only 400W, it's looking unlikely I have a 500W+ supply as its unlikely my current rig has one.
    7850 hd needs a 500watt with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connector minimum, otherwise it won't work at all.

    You need to spend more money if you want a 7850 hd, and a decent power supply costs around £50 for your need.
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