Some people just make me sick

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She was 15, she knew what this would do.

Imagine being a 16 year old being sent to a US jail

15 is old enough to know that crying rape can ruin this innocent person's life. So yes I think the entire blame lies with her.

I do not condone her actions yes she probably knew of the consequences. So would someone that was a 10 year old. I don't know if either of you have read to kill a Mockingbird but if you have would you say that all the fault lied with Mayella? Just wondering... Perhaps she had ridiculously bad parents who taught her only to think about herself? I think you'll find it's much more complicated than we may think.

Reply 41

badcheesecrispy

lmao looking at TSR reaction to this you'd think it is worse than actually raping someone. You are all actually more appalled at this than cases where a person has been raped. How shocking.

Reply 42

Melikeyflute

Original post by Silver060

Bet you he wishes he did rape her now! honestly though the whole thing is a joke and there should be more put in place to stop things like this happen!

What do you recommend?

Reply 43

kka25

Original post by Pin

The 15 year old girl was a coward but after being an idiot and telling such a lie, honestly how many people would have the courage to come forward and say they made it all up, especially as there was no trial and the person pleaded guilty themselves.

What's your point here?

Reply 44

suggsina

Original post by fudgesundae

If you read the article it shows that he actually pleaded guilty because his lawyer convinced him that a jury would never believe a large black football player in a rape case. Basically his lawyer knew the US justice system is inherently racist.

That's pretty outrageous advice - i know the system is probably racially biased but he should at least have given them a chance to give the right verdict.

Reply 45

badcheesecrispy

Original post by Silver Arrow

That's just pure racism in action. Things like this make you wonder why half of the virgin males here on TSR are obsessed with white girls knowing that they're capable of malice like this.

What a FOOL.

I really hope your being sarcastic and playing the atypical Libtard.

Theres a case of a black woman doing this, so its nothing to do with white women. stop being so racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley_rape_allegations

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 46

cl_steele

problem at that age is people dont think through their actions, they just do it on petty impulse and specifric regards to this case, have horrific consequences for the chap involved..

Reply 47

DaveSmith99

Original post by Melikeyflute

Does everyone think that all the fault lies on her? I mean come on, she's only 15. Obviously she should be able to distinguish between right and wrong but personally, I think the only reason most of us here didn't do a stupid thing like this was thanks to good (or not awful) parenting. That said, she should return all of the money. This reminds of me To kill a Mockingbird, I thought that sort of stuff was a thing of the past.

I don't know about you but at 15 I knew that lying about rape is wrong. Yes she can return the money, but can she return all the years of his life and correct all the emotional damage she has caused to him and his family? I think not. She deserves to be jailed.

Reply 48

fudgesundae

Original post by Melikeyflute

The era of to kill a mockingbird was quite different to the one we live in right now. It is irrelevant if she has been taught to only think of herself, any decent person would know that if they accuse someone of rape then they can ruin their lives.

She ignored that, therefore she is not a decent person. She is scum.

Reply 49

poyyo

Original post by badcheesecrispy

lmao looking at TSR reaction to this you'd think it is worse than actually raping someone. You are all actually more appalled at this than cases where a person has been raped. How shocking.

yeah i noticed this too (not that this isn't a terrible case)

Reply 50

badcheesecrispy

Original post by Silver Arrow

Yes all sorts of people are capable of stuff like this but in a racist society like America they're more likely to do it because the legal system is more than happy to incarcerate a black person. This guy was sent to prison without a trial simply because some girl said she was raped.
I just feel awful for this guy. His whole life has been destroyed and rebuilding it will be a monumental task. The girl that did the accusing will most likely be let off without punishment.

Theres no evidence at all the false claim was racially motivated, or is it automatically racist because its (to you) white on black? :rolleyes:

Love how you automatically assumed she was white when she actually was black

racist - thats you

EDIT: Another false rape claim, again by an African American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case

In March 2006 Crystal Gail Mangum, an African American student at North Carolina Central University who worked as a stripper, dancer and escort, falsely accused three white Duke University students, members of the Duke Blue Devils men's lacrosse team, of raping her at a party held at the house of two of the team's captains in Durham, North Carolina on March 13, 2006. Many people involved in, or commenting on, the case, including prosecutor Mike Nifong, called the alleged assault a hate crime or suggested it might be one.

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 51

aeterno

She should serve the remainder of his sentence, the stupid girl.

Reply 52

Heavenly_Blues

She's not even going to be prosecuted, they say.
Disgusting.

Reply 53

fudgesundae

Original post by Pin

Irrelevant. There is no way to justify what she did. Any reasonable person would not have made such a claim in the first place.

Original post by badcheesecrispy

lmao looking at TSR reaction to this you'd think it is worse than actually raping someone. You are all actually more appalled at this than cases where a person has been raped. How shocking.

To be honest I don't see it as a lesser crime. Rape can ruin people's lives through the emotional torment that the victim suffers. This woman has ruined this guys life by taking away his athletic scholarship for college, ruining his potential professional football career and making him spend 5 years in a US prison as a 16 year old for a crime he didn't commit.

Cases like these are why rape cases are not taken as seriously as they should be.

(edited 11 years ago)

Reply 54

tinywings

Original post by badcheesecrispy

lmao looking at TSR reaction to this you'd think it is worse than actually raping someone. You are all actually more appalled at this than cases where a person has been raped. How shocking.

Typical TSR tbh...

A couple of guys get falsely accused of rape:

"omg this is completely appalling and disgusting!!"

Thousands of women get raped every day:

"lol bitches probably deserved it"

If you're a middle class white male you could probably rape someone and get off scot free whilst your victim is branded a slut and a liar. This poor guy only got convicted because he was black.

Reply 55

DaveSmith99

Original post by tinywings

Except the only people who say that they deserve it are trolls. This thread has nothing to do with people getting off with rape.

The fact is that this girl has ruined someones life, I don't see her crime as being a lesser crime than rape its self.

Reply 56

najinaji

Original post by tinywings

I don't know where you get this from... For one, being falsely accused and sent to prison is horrendous. Robbing an undeserving person of their freedom is one of the worst things a human being could do.

Also, rape is a ridiculously ambiguous crime, to the point that even having sex with a very drunk woman can be classed as rape. It is true that some people don't treat the issue of rape seriously enough, but it is also true that the idea and the classification of rapes and similar crimes need to be worked on, as they are still very much imperfect.

Reply 57

TheHansa

Original post by Melikeyflute

The fact that society has progressed shows that people are not limited to how their parents think.

Reply 58

Studentus-anonymous

Original post by fudgesundae

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-rape-dismissal-20120526,0,2765187.story

Before I start, I know that this is a case from the US, but this happens in every country and there have been some high profile cases over here.

Baiscally 15 year old girl accuses 16 year old black high school football player of rape. He goes to prison for 5 years plus another 5 on probation, plus he had to register on the sex offenders register. She receives a $1.5 million dollar payout from the school district for not providing her with a "safe environment".

So 10 years later she contacts him saying she wants to reconcile. Yet she refuses to admit her rape claim was false. He secretly records her confession and gets all his convictions quashed.

He still dreams of playing professional football but it is definitely a long shot. She basically ruined his life as he was a very promising player in high school who definitely could have gone pro.

Courts have said they will in all likelihood not prosecute her, and the school district said that they would not be able to get back the payments they made. This just disgusts me, she is one of the biggest pieces of scum I have ever heard of. Her actions are indefensible.

She should have to spend at least as long in prison as he did and she should have to pay the $1.5 million she received to him as well. These cases just disgust me.

Behold, the American justice system. Mistakes happen, miscarriages of justice, but America takes the biscuit for rulings and actions being out of step with what most people regard as justice.

She should have been charged with perverting the course of justice, and every other case that would have stuck, made to repay and everything else.

Reply 59

Melikeyflute

Original post by DaveSmith99

Flipping heck, if you're going to quote me then at least do it correctly! I never contested the fact that she knew lying about rape is wrong... All i was saying was that all the blame shouldn't be on her! Also, what will jailing her her achieve? Has it occurred to you that the guy might not even want to put her in jail? It would just be spiteful to put her in jail and two wrongs don't make a right..

Original post by fudgesundae

Can you even comprehend what you just wrote? If that is truly ALL she has been taught how can you even expect her to behave any differently? I'd like to think the era of to kill a Mockingbird is over too but I'm not sure that is the case.. When Harper wrote the book she didn't just write to exemplify racism she also wrote to correct other types of ignorance, some of which are present nowadays.