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  1. runner89's Avatar
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    Do you know of any universities accepting 2:2
    I've completed BSc in Computer Science, waiting for exam results - I studied at a good uni (4th place in uk legaue tables).
    So far my results have been 2:1 but I'm having this feeling that this year's exams didn't go too well. There is a good likelihood I may get 2:2 in the end.

    I'm just wondering if you know of any unis accepting 2:2 for masters (e.g. advanced computing). I mailed University of Kent as it says on their website that they require at least 2:2 but I could imagine that if there is big competition for places they won't even consider me.
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    Re: Do you know of any universities accepting 2:2
    Depending on how high a 2.2 it is, what your references are like and the reasons for/behind your 2.2, it is possible to get a place on a Masters course that usually requires a 2.1, especially if you are self-funding. I applied to Goldsmiths and Royal Holloway post-results and got into both, despite them requiring a good 2.1 normally :yes: That's coz I had quite serious extenuating circumstances, was self-funding and had strong references :yes:
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    Thanks for answering. I had to work and study full-time due to family financial problems throughout the whole degree. Also, this I wouldn't put as an official cause but I've had chronic tiredness and have been ill all the time, my life's been just a misery for last 3 years. When I wanted to study after work, I literally was falling asleep on my desk. 1 hour of commuting to and back from work didn't do me good either.
    (I think) I have good references so I'll write nice personal statement and will try Kent and Essex as their courses are relatively cheap. They also say they accept 2:2 (without industrial experience). I'll see how it goes. I don't want to study in London anymore as prices are too high.
    Who knows, maybe I'll be lucky enough to get 2:1.
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    (Original post by runner89)
    Thanks for answering. I had to work and study full-time due to family financial problems throughout the whole degree. Also, this I wouldn't put as an official cause but I've had chronic tiredness and have been ill all the time, my life's been just a misery for last 3 years. When I wanted to study after work, I literally was falling asleep on my desk. 1 hour of commuting to and back from work didn't do me good either.
    (I think) I have good references so I'll write nice personal statement and will try Kent and Essex as their courses are relatively cheap. They also say they accept 2:2 (without industrial experience). I'll see how it goes. I don't want to study in London anymore as prices are too high.
    Who knows, maybe I'll be lucky enough to get 2:1.
    Best of luck with it all! You're right that London is so bloody expensive :sad: I was just lucky that my parents have lived in London all their time in the UK anyway, so I don't spend for rent and food and stuff :nah:
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    Thanks very much.
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    What do you want to do after your Masters? Im not entirely convinced that a Masters from Kent is going to substantially boost your CV if you have already have a 2:2 from Imperial/Warwick/UCL.

    Id be tempted to apply to several higher tier universities even if they say they require a 2:1, and just see what happens. Try Southampton/Bath/Leeds/etc. A 2:2 obviously isnt great but since you were at a top place, you might still have a good chance of getting into a university in the lower half of the Russell Group. I know people who have been admitted into Masters at places like Cardiff/Sheffield with a 2:2 from Imperial even though the courses formally asked for a 2:1.


    edit: just realised you might mean 'top 4' in some guardian league table sense of the phrase rather than Imperial/UCL. In that case the same advice still applies, youve nothing to lose applying for better places, its not like the application costs you anything and if you can tell a good story to explain your poor performance you might have a decent chance. You shouldnt just be settling for Kent without trying higher places, even if they cost a bit more.
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    Re: Do you know of any universities accepting 2:2
    (Original post by poohat)
    What do you want to do after your Masters? Im not entirely convinced that a Masters from Kent is going to substantially boost your CV if you have already have a 2:2 from Imperial/Warwick/UCL.

    Id be tempted to apply to several higher tier universities even if they say they require a 2:1, and just see what happens. Try Southampton/Bath/Leeds/etc. A 2:2 obviously isnt great but since you were at a top place, you might still have a good chance of getting into a university in the lower half of the Russell Group. I know people who have been admitted into Masters at places like Cardiff/Sheffield with a 2:2 from Imperial even though the courses formally asked for a 2:1.


    edit: just realised you might mean 'top 4' in some guardian league table sense of the phrase rather than Imperial/UCL. In that case the same advice still applies, youve nothing to lose applying for better places, its not like the application costs you anything and if you can tell a good story to explain your poor performance you might have a decent chance. You shouldnt just be settling for Kent without trying higher places, even if they cost a bit more.
    This. I know of a few people who are on masters who have told me that though universities normally ask 2.1, many of them accept 2.2 and just ask for 2.1 to make themselves look a bit better/more competitive. Though I am slightly sceptical of that, you clearly can get on with a 2.2 to a good masters course.
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    Masters have generally lax requirements, partly because they make money for the university, and partly because the demand isn't that strong. Most people who "succeeded" got jobs or PhD places straight out of university.

    However they make money because they cost money. Before you dump a few thousand pounds of cash (not student loan fake debt) on a course, identify why you didn't do well at undergrad and think seriously about whether the same thing will happen again. Unless you get a merit or a distinction, ie. demonstrate improvement, the masters is not much good and a big moneysink.

    btw, in comp sci I'm not sure employers even care too much about grades, especially in theoretical courses. You'd be better off trying to get programming experience.
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    (Original post by DynamicSyngery)
    Most people who "succeeded" got jobs or PhD places straight out of university.
    I know you can skip out the Masters bit in the sciences but you tend to need a Masters in the arts and humanities :yes:
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    this is educational, best of luck for the Masters
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    The suspense is killing me. Which uni?
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    (Original post by DynamicSyngery)
    Masters have generally lax requirements, partly because they make money for the university, and partly because the demand isn't that strong. Most people who "succeeded" got jobs or PhD places straight out of university.

    However they make money because they cost money. Before you dump a few thousand pounds of cash (not student loan fake debt) on a course, identify why you didn't do well at undergrad and think seriously about whether the same thing will happen again. Unless you get a merit or a distinction, ie. demonstrate improvement, the masters is not much good and a big moneysink.

    btw, in comp sci I'm not sure employers even care too much about grades, especially in theoretical courses. You'd be better off trying to get programming experience.
    Sounds very reasonable. So far I've had 3 face-to-face interviews for junior programmer positions and also have done a few telephone interviews. Some of them asked me for predicted result so I said it'd be 2:1. I managed to answer all the technical questions and the interviewers seemed happy with my answers. One employer has already made me an offer and did not ask for transcript of grades. I guess that a better measure of candidate's technical abilities for them was the interview. FYI, i applied to small companies only.

    Now I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, I didn't do that bad in the exams after all. :P
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    (Original post by poohat)
    What do you want to do after your Masters? Im not entirely convinced that a Masters from Kent is going to substantially boost your CV if you have already have a 2:2 from Imperial/Warwick/UCL.

    Id be tempted to apply to several higher tier universities even if they say they require a 2:1, and just see what happens. Try Southampton/Bath/Leeds/etc. A 2:2 obviously isnt great but since you were at a top place, you might still have a good chance of getting into a university in the lower half of the Russell Group. I know people who have been admitted into Masters at places like Cardiff/Sheffield with a 2:2 from Imperial even though the courses formally asked for a 2:1.


    edit: just realised you might mean 'top 4' in some guardian league table sense of the phrase rather than Imperial/UCL. In that case the same advice still applies, youve nothing to lose applying for better places, its not like the application costs you anything and if you can tell a good story to explain your poor performance you might have a decent chance. You shouldnt just be settling for Kent without trying higher places, even if they cost a bit more.
    Thanks for advice. I'll take my chances and will apply to better unis. I was planning to work as a programmer and study btw.
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    (Original post by Chuck Norris)
    The suspense is killing me. Which uni?
    IC
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    Just FYI, I sent e-mails to some unis and most of them came back to me saying I just need to apply. This is because they consider each application on individual basis and basically would accept 2:2 if they think the candidate is suitable.
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    Re: Do you know of any universities accepting 2:2
    (Original post by runner89)
    I've completed BSc in Computer Science, waiting for exam results - I studied at a good uni (4th place in uk legaue tables).
    So far my results have been 2:1 but I'm having this feeling that this year's exams didn't go too well. There is a good likelihood I may get 2:2 in the end.

    I'm just wondering if you know of any unis accepting 2:2 for masters (e.g. advanced computing). I mailed University of Kent as it says on their website that they require at least 2:2 but I could imagine that if there is big competition for places they won't even consider me.
    Do you have like a displinary 2:1/first system.
    As for my university, if you get more than half your modules being 2:1 or above and an average of 57, then you can still get a 2:1.
    So if you get an average of 58 for example, and 9 2:1, 7 2:2 ; you would still get a 2:1. Is there a system like that at your university?
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    (Original post by samiz20891)
    Do you have like a displinary 2:1/first system.
    As for my university, if you get more than half your modules being 2:1 or above and an average of 57, then you can still get a 2:1.
    So if you get an average of 58 for example, and 9 2:1, 7 2:2 ; you would still get a 2:1. Is there a system like that at your university?
    Thanks! I just read about this and this seems to be the case. Ok, there is still hope of getting 2:1.
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    (Original post by runner89)
    IC
    Much obliged.
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    Much obliged.
    Oh, don't even mention it!
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    (Original post by runner89)
    Oh, don't even mention it!
    Well, good day to you sir.
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