A funny proof question

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  1. Micky76's Avatar
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    A funny proof question
    Basically I was attempting to do some examinations that are sat in Poland at the age of 18 (equivalent to A-level) and I encountered this question which is written very poorly. I have translated the question and one mark scheme answer method to the best of my ability. Here it goes:

    Prove that for every integer k, k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 is divisible by 36.

    (Seems like they forgot to say k>1)

    Answer:

    k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 = k^2(k^4 - 2k^2 + 1) = k^2(k^2 - 1)^2
    =[k(k+1)(k-1)]^2

    >Showing that k(k+1)(k-1) is divisible by 6:

    (k-1)k(k+1)

    For any three consecutive integers at least one is even and exactly one is divisible by 3 (Not true if k=1). The square of the product of these integers is divisible by 36.

    Therefore, an integer given by k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 where k is an integer is divisible by 36.

    -End of answer-

    Just wanted everyone thoughts on this, the question is basically disproved with -2<k<2 but do you think that it is an adequate "proof" for k outside of this range?

    EDIT: I was wrong and the question and solution is right. Perhaps I was to critical about this question, sorry.
    Last edited by Micky76; 09-06-2012 at 20:08.
  2. notnek's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    I do think it's an adequate proof. Are there any specific parts that you weren't sure about?
  3. Micky76's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by notnek)
    I do think it's an adequate proof. Are there any specific parts that you weren't sure about?
    Just that it is wrong for -2<k<2. But I assume that they just forgot to put that in.
  4. DFranklin's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    You seem to think 0 is not divisible by 36. It is.
  5. The Polymath's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by Micky76)
    Just that it is wrong for -2<k<2. But I assume that they just forgot to put that in.
    It seems exactly like the proof by induction question we get in A-level Further Maths, have you tried doing it that way?
  6. Venomilys's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    surely you can do this quickly

    k = 36n

    k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 = k (k^5 - 2k^3 + k) = 36n (k^5 - 2k^3 + k) = 36p.

    correct me if I'm wrong...
  7. notnek's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by Ilyas)
    surely you can do this quickly

    k = 36n

    k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 = k (k^5 - 2k^3 + k) = 36n (k^5 - 2k^3 + k) = 36p.

    correct me if I'm wrong...
    What you have shown is: "If k is divisible by 36 then k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 is divisible by 36".

    The statement in the OP is "For every integer k, k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 is divisible by 36".
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by notnek)
    What you have shown is: "If k is divisible by 36 then k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 is divisible by 36".

    The statement in the OP is "For every integer k, k^6 - 2k^4 + k^2 is divisible by 36".
    oops, sorry! should have read it properly.
  9. Micky76's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by DFranklin)
    You seem to think 0 is not divisible by 36. It is.
    You hit the nail on the head. That clarifies everything. Thank you.
  10. Micky76's Avatar
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    Re: A funny proof question
    (Original post by DFranklin)
    You seem to think 0 is not divisible by 36. It is.
    Just one thing though, so it is technically divisible by any number except for zero itself.
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    Re: A funny proof question
    Yes.
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