[Scienceisgood]

Hey Guys;

Well, this question has been posed since modern science came into being some hundreds of years ago. This is whether science can or can not co-exist peacefully with religion.

What do you think?

Yes
No
Perhaps in the future

[justmyopinions]

Yes. example:

the laws of pysichs. Why do they exist? God.
(I'm not saying thats true, even though I am a Christian and love watching the science shows, but thats an example). You can't deny the scientific laws, but you can't explain where they come from or why they are here.

[Scienceisgood]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
Yes. example:

the laws of pysichs. Why do they exist? God.
(I'm not saying thats true, even though I am a Christian and love watching the science shows, but thats an example). You can't deny the scientific laws, but you can't explain where they come from or why they are here.

READ BEFORE NEGGING!

As a scientist at heart, you (as in religious peoples) always look for a "why" as though there has to be a reason behind everything, why not simply look at the chaos that has evolved and thus, its beauty.

By the way, am atheist.
Although, it is human nature to try and figure out the why, it doesn't mean there is one there.

[The Polymath]

(Original post by Scienceisgood)
Hey Guys;

Well, this question has been posed since modern science came into being some hundreds of years ago. This is whether science can or can not co-exist peacefully with religion.

What do you think?

Yes
No
Perhaps in the future

I'd certainly say they can exist peacefully together. The question to be asked, though, is can one person support both simultaneously? It's down to the difference between proof and faith, I suppose.

[chickenonsteroids]

Yes. The only time they don't is when religion tries to hinder scientific progress. Like creationism or something like that.

They exist peacefully together now.

[Scienceisgood]

(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
Yes. The only time they don't is when religion tries to hinder scientific progress. Like creationism or something like that.

They exist peacefully together now.

I made a thread based on this a little while ago and have found an article stating that South Korea had banned evolution references on the evolution of the horse and archaeopteryx into birds.

The evidence is clearly there. Only problem is, religion sticks to one source where as science looks at many different sources and thus will change if it proves itself wrong. =l

Link to source:
http://www.nature.com/news/south-kor...emands-1.10773

[mmmpie]

No.

They're both centred around the idea of explaining things, but really they're too dissimilar to be reconciled. Scientific knowledge is mutable, it changes all the time, but religious explanations can't change. The only way to make it work is to enforce a permanent separation between scientific knowledge and religious knowledge, which itself is incompatible with science's underlying goal of finding the best explanations for things.

[Venomilys]

No they can't co-exist, but a 'God' can exist and probably does, just not the God depicted in many main stream faiths. It's absolutely impossible when you observe with a more open mind.

A God cannot be infallible if no one has an even chance in entering heaven. This is true no matter how you look at it (no verses here to twist in your favour thiests, this is purely observational) and indeed no one has an even chance in entering heaven.

[ExMuslim]

No.

At least with Islam.

In Islam, if science contradicts Qu'ranic teachings, like for example the theory of evolution, any Muslim who abandons the faith position in favor of the scientific position will have become an apostate, and the punishment for that in Islam is of course death.

I know Christianity also has had a nasty history of killing and persecuting scientists and philosophers. In fact, Galileo was not pardoned by the Catholic Church until 1992.

[SnoochToTheBooch]

no. not when religions continue to make claims contradictory to solid, well understood science.

[Kiss]

Yes, the only problems arise when either side (extreme, militant atheists or extreme, hateful religious pushers) tries to impose views on others and assures others that they are right.

[PrismaticCore]

I'm sure they can, if one opens their mind enough.
I'm a theist and I'm also a big big fan of science and one who believes that god does have a place somewhere in the 'gaps' of science.

But then again, I've had plenty of people calling me stupid after hearing me say that.

[Gofre]

As long as they adopt attitudes like this. Science seeks solely to discern truth, religion should not be allowed to prevent that.

[QuantumOverlord]

(Original post by justmyopinions)
Yes. example:

the laws of pysichs. Why do they exist? God.
(I'm not saying thats true, even though I am a Christian and love watching the science shows, but thats an example). You can't deny the scientific laws, but you can't explain where they come from or why they are here.

Neither can the religious person explain where the laws came from.

All you are simply doing is labelling unknown with 'God'

[de_monies]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
No.

At least with Islam.

In Islam, if science contradicts Qu'ranic teachings, like for example the theory of evolution, any Muslim who abandons the faith position in favor of the scientific position will have become an apostate, and the punishment for that in Islam is of course death.

I know Christianity also has had a nasty history of killing and persecuting scientists and philosophers. In fact, Galileo was not pardoned by the Catholic Church until 1992.

That'll be why they had the "Islamic golden age" where the Muslim countries excelled in things like science

[ExMuslim]

(Original post by de_monies)
That'll be why they had the "Islamic golden age" where the Muslim countries excelled in things like science

The Muslims came up with a few medical practices, a few mathematical theories and translated Greek works into Arabic during their golden age. None of that contradicts Islamic teachings, which I said must happen for the conflict to occur had you read my post before rolling your eyes like a three year old girl. Now that science is moving in a direction where its invalidating Islamic teachings, like creationism, I doubt there can be co-existence. The Arab world has chosen to stick with religion and not science and modernity, that is why their collective GDP is less than that of Spain.