is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?

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    is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    7. The reaction to produce a drug has a ΔH value of –10.07 kJmol-1 and a ΔS value of 42.12 Jmol-1 K-1
    at 20°C. State whether this reaction will proceed spontaneously at 25°C and explain why. (5 marks)


    ΔG = ΔH – TΔS (where ΔH = -10.07 kJ mol-1, ΔS = 42.12 J mol-1 K-1 and T = 293K)
    ΔG = 10.96- 2.95 = +8.01 kJ mol-1 (2 s.f.).
    Reaction does not proceed as ΔG is positive
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    anyonjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeee?
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    check your value for ΔS - it needs to be in the same units as ΔH (once multiplied with T)
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    I'm not quite sure what you did there, I got a negative value for ΔG. Are you sure you've divided ΔS by 1000 to make sure it's in the same units as ΔH?
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    (Original post by NightBear)
    I'm not quite sure what you did there, I got a negative value for ΔG. Are you sure you've divided ΔS by 1000 to make sure it's in the same units as ΔH?
    I was tryna get him to realise that by himself :P
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    (Original post by ms607)
    I was tryna get him to realise that by himself :P
    Didn't see your post before I posted mine
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    You've got to convert the enthalpy value to the correct form by multiplying it by a 1000. So kJ mol-1 is converted to J mol-1.
    From there, you should be able to work out the correct answer.
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    (Original post by letr)
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    ΔG = 10.96- 2.95 = +8.01 kJ mol-1 (2 s.f.).
    I believe that should be "3 s.f." not "2 s.f."
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    I'm not quite sure what you did there, I got a negative value for ΔG. Are you sure you've divided ΔS by 1000 to make sure it's in the same units as ΔH?
    Or you could do it this way or my way. Either way, you should get the right answer after your calculations.
    Last edited by Cable; 27-05-2012 at 18:32.
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    (Original post by letr)
    7. The reaction to produce a drug has a ΔH value of –10.07 kJmol-1 and a ΔS value of 42.12 Jmol-1 K-1
    at 20°C. State whether this reaction will proceed spontaneously at 25°C and explain why. (5 marks)


    ΔG = ΔH – TΔS (where ΔH = -10.07 kJ mol-1, ΔS = 42.12 J mol-1 K-1 and T = 293K)
    ΔG = 10.96- 2.95 = +8.01 kJ mol-1 (2 s.f.).
    Reaction does not proceed as ΔG is positive
    25 degrees C = 298K not 293K
    Last edited by wibletg; 27-05-2012 at 20:13.
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    Re: is this GIBBS free energy calculation WRONG?
    (Original post by wibletg)
    25 degrees C = 298K not 293K
    but it states 20 degrees in the question!!:p:p
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