Maths - Circle Theorems

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  1. SM!'s Avatar
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    Maths - Circle Theorems
    Hello,
    I have my exam tomorrow and was stuck on these questions:

    1) Calculate the length of AB. Click image for larger version. 

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    Answer:10.6cm
    I tried working out the area of a trapezium somehow but didn't get anywhere

    2) A bridge is built in the shape of the arc of a circle, centre O. The width, AB, is 12m and the height is 4m. Calculate the distance AO. Click image for larger version. 

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    Answer: 6.5m
    I tried working out the arc length (didn't know what else to do) and was completely confused from there.

    :confused:
    Please help if you can, thank you xx

    EDIT: Now finished my exam, thanks for your help everyone xx
    Last edited by SM!; 13-06-2012 at 15:15.
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    1) the distance between the two centres is 11, and you can form a right angled triangle (3 from the 7, the line between the two centres and from the centre of the smaller circle to 3 down from the other centre), then 11 x sin(3/11) ?


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  3. acomber's Avatar
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    Re: Maths - Circle Theorems
    You need to be thinking about Pythagoras theorem. Make your unknown x and just work it out.
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    (Original post by acomber)
    You need to be thinking about Pythagoras theorem. Make your unknown x and just work it out.
    The square root of 11^2 - 3^2 is 10.6 to 1 dp.


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    (Original post by mattparker)
    The square root of 11^2 - 3^2 is 10.6 to 1 dp.


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    Yes.

    you know the distance between the centres of the circles is 7+4=11

    Call the height of the triangle 7-4 = 3cm

    the unknown is then the other side, x

    x^2 = 11^2 - 3^2

    x = 10.583
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    Are you sure about the answer to the second one. I keep ending with 8.48(to 2 decimal place)

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    Re: Maths - Circle Theorems
    (Original post by zohaib029)
    Are you sure about the answer to the second one. I keep ending with 8.48(to 2 decimal place)

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    I make it 6.5.

    Post your working that leads to the solution 8.48.
  8. SM!'s Avatar
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    Re: Maths - Circle Theorems
    (Original post by zohaib029)
    Are you sure about the answer to the second one. I keep ending with 8.48(to 2 decimal place)

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    (Original post by mattparker)
    The square root of 11^2 - 3^2 is 10.6 to 1 dp.


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    (Original post by acomber)
    Yes.

    you know the distance between the centres of the circles is 7+4=11

    Call the height of the triangle 7-4 = 3cm

    the unknown is then the other side, x

    x^2 = 11^2 - 3^2

    x = 10.583

    (Original post by notnek)
    I make it 6.5.

    Post your working that leads to the solution 8.48.
    Thank you everyone for your help xx
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    (Original post by SM!)
    Thank you everyone for your help xx
    I assume you managed to do the second one then?

    Good luck for the exam tomorrow - I'm sure you'll do well.
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    If you split line ab equally with a line from the centre you make two triangles right. Now let look at triangle aoc (were c is the perpendicular bisector from point o) i did some calculations and ended up with 8 . Im most likely wrong so could you go through your steps please and thank you

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    (Original post by zohaib029)
    If you split line ab equally with a line from the centre you make two triangles right. Now let look at triangle aoc (were c is the perpendicular bisector from point o) i did some calculations and ended up with 8 . Im most likely wrong so could you go through your steps please and thank you

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    You've got the right idea but you haven't posted your working so I don't know where you've gone wrong.

    The key step is to notice that OC=r-4 where r is the radius of the circle. Also, AO=r. So you have a right-angled triangle AOC with lengths 6, r-4 and r so you can use Pythagoras to find r.
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    I know were Im wrong . I made an assumption which isn't true. But im stumped.help me out please

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    Oh... Thank you very much

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    Re: Maths - Circle Theorems
    (Original post by zohaib029)
    I know were Im wrong . I made an assumption which isn't true. But im stumped.help me out please

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    Do you understand my last post? Can you see why OC=r-4 ?

    So you have a right-angled triangle where the hypotenuse is r and the other two sides are 6 and r-4.

    Use Pythagoras to write down an equation and post it here.
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    Sorry .you dint read my post before. Thanks again any way. Also if you don't mind me asking how old are you. Surely you do a level maths or summing

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    (Original post by zohaib029)
    Sorry .you dint read my post before. Thanks again any way. Also if you don't mind me asking how old are you. Surely you do a level maths or summing

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    I'm a maths teacher.
  17. zohaib029's Avatar
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    Oh ok i was starting to worry as i thought that if another Gcse student could do that and i couldnt i wasn't as good as i thought( at the moment I've got 119 /120 ums in paper one and 116/120 in paper 2)

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    Last edited by zohaib029; 13-06-2012 at 17:00.
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