Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?
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Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?My boyfriend's parents have told him they "will not sign the necessary paperwork" for him to live in a flat with friends in his 2nd year.
Just wondering, seeing as he's 19, will this actually not enable him to move out?
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?While it's very unlikely he'll need parental permission to move out, he may (particularly if it's not uni owned accomodation) need someone to guarantee the lease, which would often fall to the parents. However, and it depends on the particular lease agreement, if it's one lease for the flat then probably only one person out of all his friends will need to sign it.
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?He won't need their permission, but he will need somebody to be a guarantor.. I put down my parents just because it seemed to make the most sense but it doesnt have to be them!
He is legally an adult, nothing they can do to stop him,
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?Indeed, he doesn't need their permission. However, he might need someone to sign the guarantor forms. That someone is commonly a parent, but could be another family member, friend etc., and one estate agent told us to forge a signature if we couldn't get anyone to be our guarantor!
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?Your parents strictly speaking have no control over where you live at university (unless of course they're providing the money for you to live there). I think what they are saying is that they will refuse to act as guarantors which most students need when they want to move into student accommodation of some kind. But your friend (you) should be able to find someone else to fill that position.
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?you dont even need guarantors for all places, we didnt need any for our house. Or you would just need one for the whole group, so one of his friends could get one of his parents to be the guarantor.
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?I really did mean my boyfriend :P Personally I'm going to live in halls and my Mum hasn't needed to sign anything in regards to that (which I'm pleased about, I'm 20, I shouldn't need her to sign anything... I'm the one that'll be paying it back for the rest of my life XD)(Original post by Rascacielos)
But your friend (you) should be able to find someone else to fill that position.
It did turn out he meant the guarantor thing - but they've luckily agreed to do it, as long as he gets his student loan paid into THEIR account...
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?That sounds a bit much! It's his student loan, he's the one spending it and he's the one who will ultimately pay it back... But anyway, not my place to comment.(Original post by seventwoseven)
I really did mean my boyfriend :P Personally I'm going to live in halls and my Mum hasn't needed to sign anything in regards to that (which I'm pleased about, I'm 20, I shouldn't need her to sign anything... I'm the one that'll be paying it back for the rest of my life XD)
It did turn out he meant the guarantor thing - but they've luckily agreed to do it, as long as he gets his student loan paid into THEIR account...
I don't think all letting agents require guarantors but most do for student lets at least, principally because students can absolutely trash a place and not have the funds or the inclination to pay for repairs etc. -
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?It is correct that many/most landlords require a guarantor. This is mainly to ensure that the rent will be paid as students usually don't have an income. The guarantor can be any adult. Professional landlords/letting agents will want to make sure the guarantor is finacially sound and prefer an owner occupier.
I am shocked to hear that the letting agent encouraged students to forge signitures. Forging a signiture is committing fraud (See section 2 Fraud Act 2006)
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?!!!!!!!!!(Original post by seventwoseven)
It did turn out he meant the guarantor thing - but they've luckily agreed to do it, as long as he gets his student loan paid into THEIR account...
And why do they want him to pay it into their bank account? Presumably so they can syphon some off / use it to to control him ("if you don't do x, y & z, then we won't give you any of your money).
I'm not even sure that student finance will let a student loan be paid into someone else's account - you'll have to check that out.
Well indeed - but the whole thing was a bit dodgy - I went around pointing out signs of an obvious rat infestation to the agent during the viewing!!(Original post by hunter0510)
I am shocked to hear that the letting agent encouraged students to forge signitures. Forging a signiture is committing fraud (See section 2 Fraud Act 2006)
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2
Needless to say, I'm living elsewhere. -
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?OMG - what cowboys! So unprofessional!
I am a student landlady myself (on a mission to win the "Landlady of the year award" LOL - not sure if that even exists!) and I feel really sorry for what some students have to put up with. You are paying 'customers' and have a right to receive a decent 'product or service'.
I wish you'd all have more choice. It would put the rogue landlords straight out of business or force them to change and rightly so!!! It's shocking!
Don't pay your studentloan straight into their account. Why should you!? Try to find a guarantor, maybe an aunty, uncle or friend of the family etc. Job done. -
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?Not to piss on his parade but he cant have his student loan paid into their accounts - it has to go into his own account first but he can than just transfer the money. He could agree to this, have them sign it and than refuse.. to pay the loans as they've already signed it so nothing they can do.
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?(Original post by Origami Bullets)
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And why do they want him to pay it into their bank account? Presumably so they can syphon some off / use it to to control him ("if you don't do x, y & z, then we won't give you any of your money).It is awful, his Mum is basically a control freak who chucked him out at 18 and was surprised that he didn't cope too well financially, and has now decided to basically try and trap him into needing to ask her for his money.(Original post by earlysound)
Not to piss on his parade but he cant have his student loan paid into their accounts - it has to go into his own account first but he can than just transfer the money. He could agree to this, have them sign it and than refuse.. to pay the loans as they've already signed it so nothing they can do.
She's a bit crazy and one minute says one thing and the next another - so I'm hoping that she'll change her mind and 'let' him have it in his own account.
I feel like she heard the 'needed as a guarantor' thing and thought, 'great, I'm back in control'...
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?He'd be better finding somebody else to act as his guarantor if he really needs one. No point giving that much control to anybody over something that will probably never matter anyway.
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?This kid, if he actually send his student loan to his parents, needs to grow up and make sure he doesn't go home - ( I've heard of parents doing this) and not only is it not allowed, but it ENSURES this kid stayes a CHILD, and never grows up.
Controlling parents = parents own insecurity. He will help his mother if he doesnt give her the money.
I assume the OP is his friend - tell him if he does this, not only will he not be able to control his own life, but he won't be able to respect himself.
If he is finding it hard, tell him that the repercussions will mean that he will FOREVER be controlled by his parents. Forget being a graduate, his mother will continue to control him. She probably won't stop until perhaps he gets married. Also - if he gives her the money he is making a CHOICE to do that. His choice. Don't let him get bullied or controlled by his parents.
BTW - as said above, other people can sign the guarantor form. -
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Re: Do you need parental permission to live in a student flat in your 2nd year?I worked in a student letting agency during part of my third year of university (which i've just finished), and all I can say is I wish all landlords had your attitude!(Original post by hunter0510)
OMG - what cowboys! So unprofessional!
I am a student landlady myself (on a mission to win the "Landlady of the year award" LOL - not sure if that even exists!) and I feel really sorry for what some students have to put up with. You are paying 'customers' and have a right to receive a decent 'product or service'.
I wish you'd all have more choice. It would put the rogue landlords straight out of business or force them to change and rightly so!!! It's shocking!
Don't pay your studentloan straight into their account. Why should you!? Try to find a guarantor, maybe an aunty, uncle or friend of the family etc. Job done.
He is legally an adult, nothing they can do to stop him, 
