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  1. Char081's Avatar
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    Image Copyright Confusion
    Bit confused....
    I'm having a bit of a debate with someone over the use of images. Im setting up a summer event and in order to advertise, i need photos/images. I'm looking for pictures of smiling children participating in sport!

    Argument 1- If a website has posted/uploaded an image then it is in the public domain so I would be okay to use it in advertising a small village event? The pictures would be used for maybe 20 posters and 50 letters...Part of me thinks this is a small enough number to be significant?

    Argument 2- Images on websites are copyrighted and cannot be used.

    I've looked on royalty free websites to find images but its a pretty specialized event and none of the pictures are right.

    Whats your opinion?
  2. Vohamanah's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    Argument 2 is legally correct. The images are copyrighted by the person who took them (or a different owner if the rights have been transferred).

    If you want to avoid breaching copyright (which is the moral position, and the legal one, although possibly not the most practical solution) there are plenty of stock image websites you could use without risk.

    Of course, copyright only matters if you get caught. If it for a small village event with a very low circulation the chance of that is small. But its up to you if you want to take that risk.
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    (Original post by Vohamanah)
    Argument 2 is legally correct. The images are copyrighted by the person who took them (or a different owner if the rights have been transferred).

    If you want to avoid breaching copyright (which is the moral position, and the legal one, although possibly not the most practical solution) there are plenty of stock image websites you could use without risk.

    Of course, copyright only matters if you get caught. If it for a small village event with a very low circulation the chance of that is small. But its up to you if you want to take that risk.
    It also only matters if the copyright owner wants to do anything about it.
  4. Char081's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    (Original post by TheSownRose)
    It also only matters if the copyright owner wants to do anything about it.
    So would you suggest making the source as far removed from me as possible e.g using an American website as apposed to one closer to home?
  5. TheSownRose's Avatar
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    (Original post by Char081)
    So would you suggest making the source as far removed from me as possible e.g using an American website as apposed to one closer to home?
    I would suggest not taking the images at all - some people wouldn't mind (I am pretty sure one of my photos is being used on a website, but do I care?), but some would and can be quite petty about it.

    If you are going down this route, physical distance doesn't matter.
  6. Char081's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    Its just so frustrating! You cant have a poster without a picture and none of the royalty free websites have any decent pictures!
  7. TheSownRose's Avatar
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    (Original post by Char081)
    Its just so frustrating! You cant have a poster without a picture and none of the royalty free websites have any decent pictures!
    What do you need a picture of?
  8. Norton1's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    (Original post by Char081)
    Its just so frustrating! You cant have a poster without a picture and none of the royalty free websites have any decent pictures!
    People wanting to be paid for their work? How dastardly.
  9. beccafairy's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    if you have quite a clear idea in mind which it sounds like you do, why not just take pictures yourself? problem solved.
  10. kpwxx's Avatar
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    (Original post by Char081)
    Its just so frustrating! You cant have a poster without a picture and none of the royalty free websites have any decent pictures!
    How about clip art? Or taking a picture? Or getting someone to draw one?

    If it's a small village event I doubt people will be put off because the picture on the poster is not quite as you'd hoped!

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  11. Good bloke's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    If you are planning to steal copyright pictures of people you will have the additional problem that the people in the pictures won't have given you permission to use their image for your purposes, and you won't have paid them a fee. These people would also, I believe, be entitled to come after you.

    Have you not thought of taking your own picture?
  12. TheSownRose's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    (Original post by Good bloke)
    If you are planning to steal copyright pictures of people you will have the additional problem that the people in the pictures won't have given you permission to use their image for your purposes, and you won't have paid them a fee. These people would also, I believe, be entitled to come after you.

    Have you not thought of taking your own picture?
    That does depend upon where it was taken. If you take a photo of someone in public, you don't have to have their permission to do anything with in (including commercial use) ... and nor does anyone else stealing it. That only extends as long as there was no reasonable expectation of privacy; if you stood on public ground but used a telephoto lens to take a photo of someone undressing in their bedroom, that does not count as 'taken in public'. :p:

    If it was taken on private property, forms will have signed and yes, you do then need permission to use it.
  13. Char081's Avatar
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    Re: Image Copyright Confusion
    I need photographs of children and as i have no young family, i would need consent forms to be singed by parents in order to use them
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