[Scienceisgood]

Hey Guys;

Well, I don't know if you heard about this but a curfew has been put in place where anyone under the age of 16 caught between the hours of 21:00 and 06:00 could face either a jail sentence of 6 months or a fine of £2,500 if caught breaking curfew.
This is to cut down on anti-social behaviour, however, I feel this automatically criminalises anyone they see.

What about you?
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[madders94]

It's been overhyped (although personally I support it, when I go to Bangor in September I don't want to have to put up with Bangor Ai chavs shouting abuse ), not all 16 year olds will be affected, it just gives the police the right to remove those who are behaving badly

[barnetlad]

Fiddlers Dram should re-release 'Day Out to Bangor'.

[Jono404]

Police being lazy again by the sounds of it.

[Herr]

Another one of those guilty by association half-baked policies that treats the symptoms rather than the cause.

[JCC-MGS]

Just another excuse for lazy feds to harrass people. Not to mention Bangor's about as dangerous as playing with a paperclip

[IndyAM]

(Original post by JCC-MGS)
Just another excuse for lazy feds to harrass people. Not to mention Bangor's about as dangerous as playing with a paperclip

The number of fingers I've stabbed and eyes I've lost is horrific!

[Annoying-Mouse]

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...20119.xls.html - Here are the statistics on crime. On 2011, there were 148 cases of youth crime (13-17).

I don't think this is the police's fault, they aren't being lazy. There are three other options:

A) Stop police cuts and increase budgets so police can assign officers to different locations and monitor the youths whilst working within the framework of civil liberties.

B) Ignore the local's troubles and merely respond to any criminal activities as opposed to tackling it.

C) Tackle it via taking a punishment route to crime and trying to provide an incentive for youths to not commit any crime.

I think A should happen but it clearly won't happen. Thus, between B and C and C won't work because it will reduce opportunities of the youths and thus give less incentives for the youths to stop their criminal activities. We're only left with B.

[lonelykatana]

(Original post by JCC-MGS)
Just another excuse for lazy feds to harrass people. Not to mention Bangor's about as dangerous as playing with a paperclip

Bangor isn't dangerous - but it certainly has it's problems amongst the local yoofs.
They seem to have a chip on their shoulder, a small town mentality where nothing but excessive aggression is seen as acceptable behavior.
Maybe it's just the high proportion of the local youths who believe being clad in a tracksuit while strolling repeatedly up and down the deserted high street with a box of aldi wine, while consistently repeating 'oh aye' and 'howwaaaayaaaaa laaa' that skews my feelings towards the area.
At least that's the attitude you receive when you go out at night in Bangor.
I have had the pleasure of living very near for the past 14 years of my life - its certainly gone down hill.

Granted, not everyone around here is like that! And you get people like that all over the place. Bangor just seems to have its unfair share of them.


I personally don't see anything wrong with the curfew - which is being highly over hyped. The first night it was put into place, they came across one group of under 16s. There were not sent home because 'there weren't doing anything wrong'.
It doesn't seem like another excuse to harass people, and its certainly not the issue some of the civil rights groups are pretending it is. but it does strike me as a bit of a pointless dispersal order, can't the police just send them home anyway?
More so, the people I described above are never under 16! They are more often than not over 18 who attend the university of 'bus stops', having superbly gained A levels in 'maes G', 'you startin' and 'occy.'

It's a fix to a problem that doesn't really exist, while they ignore the wider issues that do need sorting out.
But hey, North Wales police aren't know for being competent.

[ScheduleII]

This sort of anti-youth policy needs to be challenged and criticised openly before it becomes the norm. I think changing adults' attitude to young people matters- and I'm not alone. Barnardo's, Action for Children, the BYF and civil liberties groups have been discussing this throughout the past five years since Cam's "hug a hoodie" remark and the apparent increase in ephebiphobic stereotyping.

At least if this is being enforced selectively it will not be as nasty as the "mosquito" white-noise device, mooted by "law and order" proponents, which aims to deter all people below their early 20s from an area by exploiting a quirk in the developing responses of the human ear and brain, discriminating by age but not by behaviour or anything else.

[Coke1]

If you support this movement, you are an idiot. It is a human right to be where you want at whatever time. This won't tackle crime, it will do the complete opposite if anything.

[madders94]

(Original post by Coke1)
If you support this movement, you are an idiot. It is a human right to be where you want at whatever time. This won't tackle crime, it will do the complete opposite if anything.

It should be a human right to be able to be out in the town centre without being set upon by a gang of chavs. This curfew isn't intending to stop people being in the town, it's intended to give police the power to send them home if they're misbehaving. What exactly is the problem with that?

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by madders94)
It should be a human right to be able to be out in the town centre without being set upon by a gang of chavs. This curfew isn't intending to stop people being in the town, it's intended to give police the power to send them home if they're misbehaving. What exactly is the problem with that?

Why don't they make a clause so that it only applies in cases where the person is in violation of Intentional harassment, alarm or distress laws?

[Jack22031994]

Im 18 and don't live in Bangor so don't care, yes these children should have a curfew but it should be down to parental responsibility too


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[Jack22031994]

(Original post by Coke1)
If you support this movement, you are an idiot. It is a human right to be where you want at whatever time. This won't tackle crime, it will do the complete opposite if anything.

It's not an absolute right though is it


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[Clare~Bear]

Bangor is mainly uni students so how many teens will this actually affect?

[madders94]

(Original post by Clare~Bear)
Bangor is mainly uni students so how many teens will this actually affect?

Bangor is also home to the FE college, Coleg Menai, as well as I think four secondary schools -Ysgol Friars and Ysgol Tryfan are the two that I know of but I thought there were two more - so I think you'd be surprised, whenever I go there there's always loads of kids hanging around.

[WelshBluebird]

(Original post by madders94)
It should be a human right to be able to be out in the town centre without being set upon by a gang of chavs. This curfew isn't intending to stop people being in the town, it's intended to give police the power to send them home if they're misbehaving. What exactly is the problem with that?

The curfew gives the police the power to sent any under 16's home.
While the police have said they will not use it against those who are not causing trouble, there is nothing stopping them doing so.
The police already have powers to move along kids who are causing trouble, so there is no need for such a curfew.

[Olie]

(Original post by Clare~Bear)
Bangor is mainly uni students so how many teens will this actually affect?

10,000 students and 10-15,000 locals, so its about half and half. I'm pretty surprised at this news tbh, sure the majority of the local young population are chavs and I can almost always distinguish between students and locals, but I really have seen very little evidence of particularly bad anti-social behaviour and only once in 2 years I think have I had any form of harrassment, and it wasn't anything to call the police over. The local kids do wander about late at night, hang outside McDonalds or KFC, sometimes shouting and stuff like that, but nothing you wouldn't see in a lot of British towns. There's often a load of lowlifes drinking and smoking on the path going up to uni in the evenings, but usually they're older than 16, and other than that I haven't seen that much at all in Bangor.

[RobertWhite]

That's stupid I use to go late night bowling with friends when I was 16. They shouldn't have a curfew, people should be free to go outside whenever they want. They should just have more police dealing with the problem. Do you really think a group of chavs are going to care about a curfew? No.