[Mick.w]

Hi,

I've heard a lot from friends about this illuminati conspiracy.

to me their beliefs are kinda unfounded warped and nonsensical. they keep telling me that they will hook me up with info or what ever but never seem to follow through.

however frankly i am tired of the conversation ending there. with the simple "you wouldn't understand, you haven't seen the site/video"

know these people I know are intelligent and usually rational people. So I would be really interested to learn what it is that has convinced them so much?

if anyone who is an ardent illuminati theorist please post a movie or website that would possibly convert me.

however please send me something good.

a friend of mine sent me a video of what i thought was a film and it turned out to be a random medley of youtube videos. i turned it off because i felt after 30 minutes of unrelated stories and youtube clips with no clear narration and txt that hinted the video was made on windows movie maker i started to believe that there was no clear narrative.

so yea so something that actually involved a bit of production and effort.

thanks

[adam321]

I dont believe about the Illuminati but i do believe in New world order its already happening, just look around you have the government monitoring emails, Facebook messages,The privatisation of the police, Blocking of web content, and meny more people may laugh at it now but its happening where slowly loosing our freedom

[Mick.w]

(Original post by adam321)
I dont believe about the Illuminati but i do believe in New world order its already happening, just look around you have the government monitoring emails, Facebook messages,The privatisation of the police, Blocking of web content, and meny more people may laugh at it now but its happening where slowly loosing our freedom

cool, have you got like a video or a website that you could recommend me?

[Skeppy]

Anyone with a brain could see there is clearly a higher organisation bigger than the government

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[Mick.w]

(Original post by Skeppy)
Anyone with a brain could see there is clearly a higher organisation bigger than the government

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Wildfire S A510e

saying "anyone one with a brain can see" doesn't make a strong argument

like in court if i was a prosecutor and said "anyone with a brain can see this man is guilty" i would be considered infantile and severely lacking sophistication.

so yea people just "telling me" that theres a big government conspiracy and then when i ask for any kind of clarity being told that i "dont have a brain" isn't really enough to convince me.

now im not asking for proof beyond reasonable doubt. im merely asking for a source of a well put together theory or argument for said theory/hypothesis.

i mean did you source your theories from anywhere? or were they just an amalgamation of other people's opinions, youtube videos and imagination/theory?

[kathhh8]

Lots of info on youtube

[Mick.w]

(Original post by kathhh8)
Lots of info on youtube

(Original post by Mick.w)
Hi,

I've heard a lot from friends about this illuminati conspiracy.

to me their beliefs are kinda unfounded warped and nonsensical. they keep telling me that they will hook me up with info or what ever but never seem to follow through.

however frankly i am tired of the conversation ending there. with the simple "you wouldn't understand, you haven't seen the site/video"

know these people I know are intelligent and usually rational people. So I would be really interested to learn what it is that has convinced them so much?

if anyone who is an ardent illuminati theorist please post a movie or website that would possibly convert me.

however please send me something good.

a friend of mine sent me a video of what i thought was a film and it turned out to be a random medley of youtube videos. i turned it off because i felt after 30 minutes of unrelated stories and youtube clips with no clear narration and txt that hinted the video was made on windows movie maker i started to believe that there was no clear narrative.

so yea so something that actually involved a bit of production and effort.

thanks

the video i mentioned in bold and underlined was one that was on youtube. everything else was pretty much the same to this.

so since i keep finding crap i was hoping that sum1 who has been convinced may show me the vid that convinced them.

so far as evidenced in this thread people seem to believe in this stuff not because anyone showed or proved anything to them but simply because a bunch of other people believe it. so basically having an opinion out of it being a trend rather then them needing any proof.

[es.c]

Personally, I think Illuminati is too well known to be true; they'd want to conceal there existance. I think its just some people scaring society by conspiring. However, I do think there is an organisation above/with the government that does things secretly etc. There are really mysterious things like alien conspiracies (massive concealed trucks surrounded by 20/30 police cars in America at 2 in the morning) and these cards which predicted the 9/11 attacks, which also predicts a terrorist attack at these Olympics in London.

But saying that, a lot of it is exaggerated such as the numbers 911 being in a Simpson's episode and everyone thinking the Simpsons creators are the illuminati behind 9/11...

[Safx]

http://vigilantcitizen.com/

I wouldn't ponder on it too much, there's not alot you can do about things like this apart from be aware and concious of what you buy watch and listen to.

[Mick.w]

(Original post by Safx)
http://vigilantcitizen.com/

I wouldn't ponder on it too much, there's not alot you can do about things like this apart from be aware and concious of what you buy watch and listen to.

thank you, your the first and so far only person to actually provide me with something, which is what i asked for.

[Mick.w]

(Original post by es.c)
Personally, I think Illuminati is too well known to be true; they'd want to conceal there existance. I think its just some people scaring society by conspiring. However, I do think there is an organisation above/with the government that does things secretly etc. There are really mysterious things like alien conspiracies (massive concealed trucks surrounded by 20/30 police cars in America at 2 in the morning) and these cards which predicted the 9/11 attacks, which also predicts a terrorist attack at these Olympics in London.

But saying that, a lot of it is exaggerated such as the numbers 911 being in a Simpson's episode and everyone thinking the Simpsons creators are the illuminati behind 9/11...

interesting. have you got any link to the cards thing?

[diggy]

They don't exist but like some guy said there is more to society than meets the eye

All i can say is track your internet history don't publish your life story on the internet in the future it will surely come back to haunt you.

Im talking about companies like Facebook and Google that have too much knowledge about people its very weird it makes you wonder what their doing with the knowledge

[es.c]

(Original post by Mick.w)
interesting. have you got any link to the cards thing?

If you Google Illuminati cards, there's lots about it. Although most is plain weird, the 9/11 thing is genuinely interesting and makes you wonder whether it was luck or fate

[Safx]

(Original post by Mick.w)
thank you, your the first and so far only person to actually provide me with something, which is what i asked for.

So have you had a read? What are you views so far?

[Simran Mars Foster]

I was actually told that illmuniti is also about jesus having a blood line or something like that


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[Llamageddon]

governments can't keep blow jobs secret. bit much to ask them to keep conspiracies under wraps.

[de_monies]

I wouldn't be surprised if governments even put up some of the illuminati stuff themselves. It distracts from what's really going on in the world. I mean surely if you're a secret society, you want to keep secret?

[Reform]

(Original post by de_monies)
I wouldn't be surprised if governments even put up some of the illuminati stuff themselves. It distracts from what's really going on in the world. I mean surely if you're a secret society, you want to keep secret?

What about if they expose themselves to stay secret? Making us take the bait when really they're in another sea. I'm on to them, like Tsr is to revision

[de_monies]

(Original post by Reform)
What about if they expose themselves to stay secret? Making us take the bait when really they're in another sea. I'm on to them, like Tsr is to revision

Ooh. You should make a conspiracy that includes the illuminati as a tool in it - like how the illuminati stuff contains stuff like religious people, buildings, signs etc...

[Mick.w]

(Original post by Safx)
So have you had a read? What are you views so far?

well i've done some research and watched a couple of vids and basically it boils down to this.


what we perceived as gods were actually alien refugees from out of space.
at this point theres some ok evidence.

those alien refugees tried to create servants by interbreeding with humans
those first humans/aliens were perfect. 50% connected to the earth 50% connected to outer space. but they were too smart and ran off.

for this i was provided little evidence

then they created a second human type who was stupider.

but the guys who ran off came back to tell them stuff so they became smart.

then i forget which one of the servant half human half alien people did it but they went to war with the original alien people and then became trapped on the earth some how.

then the aliens tried to create another group of servants. some type of shape shifting lizard people who worship satan for some reason.

now those lizard servants are trying to kill the other servants.

now not only this but the lizard men are in charge of everything. they tony blair david cameron george bush gaddafi stalin hitler churchill.

and they all like to play games of war with each other in which we are the pawns. oh and they kill each other two cuz theres inter-rivalry.

now on top of this they worship satan. for what ever reason.
they also are able to contact these things which have no proof of yet. which are being called macrobes because their like microbes but better and undetectable.

now apparently the the shape shifting satan worshiping alien lizard men are able to contact these macrobes through psychic ability.

these macrobes can tell them cool stuff.

but the macrobes are like an ******* human being for some reason.
and the macrobes won't tell them cool stuff unless they give the macrobes blood.

but the macrobes cant get blood from people just dying normally.

no they require romancing first. they require a kind of ceremonial sacrifice. you know, dressing up, silverware, candles make an effort uno?

anyway but they cant sacrifice enough people so they build cities specifically to sacrifice people in. such as london or washington. and then commit horrendous acts. so yea. and a way they do this is by infiltrating every government everywhere and even non governments even skull and cross bones, masons, illuminati, secret society things.

oh yea and they like to show you their plans in films before they do it because it gives them a little thrill.

so yea these secret society, psychic, satan worshiping, genetically modified, shape shifting lizard men from outer space rule the world. and theres no god the lunar space missions were a lie and marxism is also one of their favourite things. more so than other forms of government for some reason...

but yea... so there you go. thats what i found out.

lots of imagination. lots of things yes. but in a grid of dots you can join lines to look like anything.

they make a lot of sweeping large leaps between true bits of information.

to be honest it would make the world a far more interesting place if it was true.

however i fear that quite possibly this is not the case.

that in fact our leaders are mere mortal men. who can die by falling down the stairs and bumping their head just like anyone else.

they can also be over throne and shot up against a wall.

scary thought for them i'm sure.

in fact it wudnt surprise me if they hire writers to make this **** up.

its superb propaganda and makes the government seem so powerful and above human intelligence and out of our league and all of that type of thing.

but im sure its just an attempt to make us scared of our leaders and feel powerless and out of control.

to defeat ideas of rebellion before we even think them.

i mean ancient monarchs survived for so long because people thought they were divine.

its a great way to rule people.

so if we're running around thinking our leaders are secret society, psychic, satan worshiping, genetically modified, shape shifting lizard men from outer space then that makes them seem quite special. or indeed. divine.

however when people stopped believing their monarchs were godly they were dethroned pretty quckly.

its interesting because now that i think about it. its all the middle and working classes that think this. the upperclass don't believe it for a second.

which again makes me think its an attempt at controlling the lower classes.

but yea and what better way to make people believe that the government are big bad and scary than by feeding it to the people like its top secret privileged info.

that way we spread the secret ourselves thinking we're helping each other.

now that is clever.