[SilverSurfer22]

Stancombe's sentence is a complete and utter joke, he did not hurt anyone and has been punished more then many of the people who actually participated in the riots

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9774...ok_riots_post/


on many occasions people who commit violent/sexual assaults get a lower sentence then he got

I remember reading a story about a young women who only got 4 years for manslaughter, only a year more then Stancombe and she took someone's life, all he did was write 3 facebook posts

the two black girls who attacked those two German secretaries in London did not get sentenced to a single day in Jail

[Mequa]

1) He wasn't too smart in posting that. I guess it's akin to making a bomb hoax at an airport post-9/11.

2) This kind of outcome is exactly the sort of thing people oppose the justice system for. Expect more rioting to come out of this sort of thing.

3) This heavy-handedness seems to me to be more about the authorities asserting their authority than actually dispensing justice. The aim is to intimidate people into order - a typical sign of a national crisis and breakdown of order. For possible outcomes by those not afraid of legal consequences, see 2).

[x_Natalie_x]

This is no surprise? Two young men were jailed for 4 years each for the same offence a while ago. Judges are under instruction to dispense harsher sentencing than normal for riot-related offences.

(Original post by Mequa)
2) This kind of outcome is exactly the sort of thing people oppose the justice system for. Expect more rioting to come out of this sort of thing.

3) This heavy-handedness seems to me to be more about the authorities asserting their authority than actually dispensing justice. The aim is to intimidate people into order - a typical sign of a national crisis and breakdown of order. For possible outcomes by those not afraid of legal consequences, see 2).

Absolute garbage. 2), No one rioted over the two men I mentioned above. The sentences were widely applauded. And as for 3), the government was acquiescing to public will; that which sought harsh sentences for those who committed crimes that reviled 99% of British people. People were clamouring for tough sentences, and they got them. For once. This is more indicative of a government actually listening to the people's will, not a 'breakdown of order'.

[prog2djent]

Unfortunately for you OP, most of the public will support this, and most of the public think murder/knife crimes should me much tougher.

[whyumadtho]

He also called for an attack on Muslim people.

[chrislpp]

The police and courts in the UK do very little real work for a hell of a lot of taxpayers money.

They want an easy conviction in a few hours rather than spend months trying to prove someone of murder.

[Sephiroth]

I don't think it's a bad punishment. The problem is punishments for other crimes are far too weak. Violent assaults, rape cases etc. should be given life sentences. And life should mean life.

[ncsoftlover]

(Original post by Sephiroth)
I don't think it's a bad punishment. The problem is punishments for other crimes are far too weak. Violent assaults, rape cases etc. should be given life sentences. And life should mean life.

A correctional/justice system that doesn't believe in rehabilitation is not a correctional/justice system.
You're thinking of a society like the US, highest incarceration rate in the world, and highest murder/violent crime rate in the entire developed world.
And huge amount of money spent on prisons, with more than 100000 people locked up for life without any possibility of ever getting out. Some of them are for shop shifting that happened 3 times.

[thunder_chunky]

To say that it was a stupid thing to do is an understatement. Especially when he specifically encouraged people to attack Muslims. That said 3 years is a bit extreme to be honest.

[internet tough guy]

just another typical case of over-the-top 'justice' dished out in the wake of the riots

[Squidgyness]

Sigh...

Attacking someone in a one off incident =/= making foolish and inflammatory comments during a time of crisis. You are comparing apples to oranges. The context of the comments matters just as much as the comment itself.

3 years is a bit much, 1 year would have been more appropriate. But I do think some jail time was needed. I'm sure he'll think again before encouraging people to attack the police anyhow.

And I highly doubt it was a joke, if it was he'd have replied to his mates who warned him that it was a joke. Instead he replied "do some coppers in" or something to that effect. Sounds like he is unrepentant tbh, maybe thats the reason for the harsh sentence?

[Empire08]

He shouldn't have said what he did, but three years is a joke.

When will people learn to not shout their mouth off on social media sites?

[Cmmah]

Should he have been punished?
Yes.

Does he deserve a 3 year prison sentence, when many of the actual rioters got off scot-free?
Definitely not. This is such a joke. What sort of backwards justice system is this? Make the punishment fit the crime. It's not rocket science.

[Taggart]

why is this a joke, if you look at soley on what he did then i can see why some of you think its a bit harsh but if you think in a wider sense what did he cause? he caused people to go out and attack policeman and damage innocent people property possibly putting their lives at risk. 3 years sounds about right to me, if someone had read his status and gone out to murder a polieman than it would be incitement to murder.

[Fusion]

I don't undertstand why people who post this sort of stuff on twitter/facebook end up in court when I've seen much worse on forums and youtube.

[Darth Stewie]

(Original post by Fusion)
I don't undertstand why people who post this sort of stuff on twitter/facebook end up in court when I've seen much worse on forums and youtube.

Simply put because it takes less effort to find the people, legally there is no difference between facebook and youtube however posting something on your facebook account allows everyone who reads it to know your name, probably location and a lot of the time what you look like.

[vedderfan94]

British society is going down the drain at this rate.

[callum9999]

(Original post by Fusion)
I don't undertstand why people who post this sort of stuff on twitter/facebook end up in court when I've seen much worse on forums and youtube.

Because they are sending these messages under their real identity to real friends and acquaintances who could actually do something about it. As opposed to youtube/forums which are generally people with little/no connection just ranting. And of course, it's far, far, far easier to ascertain the identity of a facebook profile than it is to find out who "bobby22" posting on youtube is.

As to people moaning about the sentence - I partially agree. But I don't think we should ever have sentences anyway. You commit a crime then you are treated until you are rehabilitated/repented. Where is the sense in a rehabilitated criminal spending another 3 years locked up for absolutely no reason, whereas a completely unreformed criminal can be out on the streets because the arbitrary number given to them by a random judge has run out?

[vedderfan94]

(Original post by Sephiroth)
I don't think it's a bad punishment. The problem is punishments for other crimes are far too weak. Violent assaults, rape cases etc. should be given life sentences. And life should mean life.

That's a bit harsh. Life for violent assault? I do agree that the sentences for these crimes should be increased but if violent assault deserves life, then what should murder get?

[vedderfan94]

(Original post by callum9999)
Because they are sending these messages under their real identity to real friends and acquaintances who could actually do something about it. As opposed to youtube/forums which are generally people with little/no connection just ranting. And of course, it's far, far, far easier to ascertain the identity of a facebook profile than it is to find out who "bobby22" posting on youtube is.

That's not necessarily true. The police could easily and quickly find a youtube user from their username using their IP address. Same thing goes for a facebook user under a fake name.