UN & Goldman Sachs chief calls on EU to force member states to be multicultural

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I don't see why Europe needs to be multicultural, which I assume means turning Europe African or Asian. You can't artificially force out white dominance in white countries. I find that racist.




Wut?

You know. Thanks for the neg rep

He's looking at it from a purely financial point of view and if that was the only important thing then i agree with him, in a capitalist market you need the best workers that you can get whether they come from Britain or Timbuktu however most concerns about immigration are not based of financial concerns and you are going to have a very tough job convincing the majority of a country like the UK that multiculturalism is a good thing. Most people don't understand or care about economic growth outside the guy on the T.V telling them we are screwed, however they do care about the various articles telling them about people of foreign cultures bringing very negative things here.

Why would you say the majority are anti-multiculturalism? That depends on how the word is defined, but Labour and LDs get a lot more votes at every level than BNP or UKIP, which suggests to me that very few people support "cultural homogeneity" being enforced.

well multiculturalism isn't just a phrase for "bring in lots of foreign people" and being anti-multiculturalism doesn't mean you are anti-immigration. here is a good overview of peoples attitudes towards multiculturalism and one interesting thing is the social groups that seem to be heavily against the concept are the groups usually associated with labour which gives the impression that although they vote for labour they might not agree with their policies on multiculturalism (just view them as better all round than the conservatives)

the multicultural stance of the UK is based on the normative term which is "positive endorsement, even celebration, of communal diversity, typically based on either the right of different groups to respect and recognition, or to the alleged benefits to the larger society of moral and cultural diversity”

What is multiculturalism? That report used the term without defining it.

As a view it is the belief that several different cultures can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country. As a political standpoint it varies, it will always work off that basic definition but its implementation (and success) differs from area to area, the report is referring to policies (in the UK) that are deemed to be moving towards that goal.

Sociocultural traits aren't distributed uniformly amongst British people, so there are already "several different cultures [...] [coexisting] peacefully and equitably in a single country"; the all-encompassing term, "British culture" is a misnomer, and 'multiculturalism' is not a novel phenomenon.

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Discuss.

I agree the term British culture is a misnomer as people from different parts of the UK can have more in common with someone from across the world than someone 100 miles away. However multiculturalism does not require the culture to be national, it could be the culture of a city or village or even a street. The important part is two distinctly different cultures come together and they get on co existing with each other which is something a lot of people in the UK seem to think is not happening when certain "foreign" cultures are introduced.

Multiculturalism requires all cultures to be able to co-exist, if one is not able to the whole thing falls apart.

It is impossible and therefore unreasonable to expect everyone to get along with everyone else. Successful coexistence in Britain is simply defined by being a law-abiding citizen; within this framework, people have the liberty to possess any given sociocultural interest or trait and correspondingly associate more with others who also possess that trait. Everyone has a friendship group with whom they associate more than they do other groups/individuals, so I fail to understand why this becomes intolerably 'divisive' or problematic when non-British people are concerned.

It doesn't require you to be friends with the other cultures but it does require all cultures to A) be peaceful towards each other (no violence caused by cultural differences) and B) for all cultures to be treated as equal (in terms of validity).

Cultural clashes have happened between groups who have been here a long time however multiculturalism can only really be seen to fail when a government begins to recognize it as a goal and begins introducing policies towards making that goal a reality. That started 30 years ago and that was the point where large influxes of "foreigners" began moving to Britain and their cultures were radically different than the ones that were already here which has resulted in clashes.

If you put two wolves in an enclosure with a piece of meat the wolves will fight over it, if you put two wolves and a pig in an enclosure with a piece of meat the wolves will team up to fight the pig. It is the same principle, the cultures that are more different than the rest are the ones people disagree with the most and are the ones people will want gone, in this case that happens to be cultures brought in by foreigners hence peoples growing dislike to immigration and association of immigration with multiculturalism.

The simple reason why this becomes more problematic with non-Britons is because their cultures are the least compatible with the ones that are already here.