B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012
TSR's model parliament.
| Announcements | Posted on | |
|---|---|---|
| Please change your TSR password | 23-05-2013 | |
| Enter our travel-writing competition for the chance to win a Nikon 1 J3 camera | 20-05-2013 | |
-
- Reputation:
- Community Assistant
- Wiki Support Team
- Secretary General of the Model UN
- Location: Leicester
- Posts: 5,209
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012This tax only applies to those that use new plastic bags. Rather than hitting the pockets of British consumers, it will hopefully engender a change in the current throwaway culture surrounding plastic bag use. If consumers reuse their bags, they can both save the environment and avoid this levy on new bags. The long term environmental benefits of this Bill should be welcomed across the House.
-
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012Why stop at plastic bags? Why not replace them all with canvas bags?(Original post by Birchington)
This tax only applies to those that use new plastic bags. Rather than hitting the pockets of British consumers, it will hopefully engender a change in the current throwaway culture surrounding plastic bag use. If consumers reuse their bags, they can both save the environment and avoid this levy on new bags. The long term environmental benefits of this Bill should be welcomed across the House.
Also, where are you pulling this ten percent figure from for admin costs? Wouldnt it be more sensible to pay what it costs them, up to a limit of ten percent? Or whatever...Last edited by paperclip; 30-06-2012 at 07:28. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012
This bill should be recited in an Irish accent as I think it's more or less what the Republic of Ireland does.
Presumably the exemption on bags with good bought on an aircraft is just there to upset Michael O'Leary of Ryanair as it's not another extra charge he can add?
As I represent the interests of a party that was once led by a cat, and therefore I feel the interests of animals, fewer plastic bags means less chance of harm coming to an animal accidentally from one, so I feel I should support the bill. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012Exactly. It will be the customer that suffers.(Original post by JPKC)
Aight, man. Though the tax will be passed onto the customer methinks. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012I think that's the point - you won't pay for plastic bags, instead choosing to bring your own. This isn't a money-making scheme, it's an attempt to reduce the use of plastic bags that have a devastating effect on our environment.(Original post by MacCuishy)
10p, no. 5p probably. To think that if you go on a decent sized shop and you'll end up paying a quid just for plazzy bags -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012
This levy will only hit consumers if they stupidly choose to continue hoarding handfuls of bags every time they shop. Logic dictates that people can overcome this simply by getting a few long-life, reusable bags that supermarkets already sell.
As an example of this in action, look at Ireland. It imposed a 12p levy on bags in 2002 and within a year 90% of shoppers were using long-life bags. Belgium, Germany, Spain, Norway and the Netherlands are now doing the same. -
That's not a good enough reason to object to this. The whole point is to alter the habits of consumers, which is achieved through a price rise. If you care about consumers/businesses so much then you'll vote 'aye' on the Banking Bill and give those earning below £20,000 a large tax cut, while also cutting business taxes by 50%.(Original post by xXedixXx)
Exactly. It will be the customer that suffers. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012What stupidity, alcohol and cigarettes have gone up in price various times over the years and yet very few people stop buying them... your logic is flawed on this one.(Original post by JPKC)
The whole point is to alter the habits of consumers, which is achieved through a price rise. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012
Aye.
I'm surprised by all the objections based on consumers. Sure, there will be slightly higher prices. However, the tax will raise a total of around £100 million per annum.... in a nation of over 60 million people. This is not a huge price to pay, and it is something worth paying if it leads to a reduction in plastic bags being thrown into landfill sites.
Plus you worry about consumers being affected in TSR land by an extra £100 million tax? Well, over the past couple of months, VAT has been reduced by £65 billion.... I'd say the consumers are doing pretty well at the moment to be honest. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012Its based partially on the Irish example, which saw a 90% decrease in the use of non-reusable bags after the tax was implemented. A pretty decent result(Original post by tehFrance)
What stupidity, alcohol and cigarettes have gone up in price various times over the years and yet very few people stop buying them... your logic is flawed on this one. -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012It probably wouldn't, as that would create a new layer of bureaucracy to work out the costs, and companies would probably try and cheat to overestimate their 'administration' expenses.(Original post by paperclip)
Wouldnt it be more sensible to pay what it costs them, up to a limit of ten percent? Or whatever...
And yes, the 10% figure is arbitrary- it was chosen because £10 million seems like a sensible estimate for overall administration costs for firms -
Re: B471 - Plastic Bag Levy Bill 2012But comparing alcohol and cigarettes to plastic bags makes perfect sense...(Original post by tehFrance)
What stupidity, alcohol and cigarettes have gone up in price various times over the years and yet very few people stop buying them... your logic is flawed on this one.