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What you wish you'd been told before coming to Oxford

stole it from the Cambridge forum :biggrin:

I wish I'd been told that going catered was practically compulsory by default at my college (even though they try to convince you otherwise) so that I could have prepared myself mentally for the awfulness of the food :p: (formal food was good but that was all)

I also wish I'd been told that there was indeed a university more disorganised than my undergraduate uni :p:

Despite those things, though I did enjoy my time there! So what about you - what do you wish you'd been told before coming to Oxford?

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Reply 1
Angelil
stole it from the Cambridge forum :biggrin:

I wish I'd been told that going catered was practically compulsory by default at my college (even though they try to convince you otherwise) so that I could have prepared myself mentally for the awfulness of the food :p: (formal food was good but that was all)

I also wish I'd been told that there was indeed a university more disorganised than my undergraduate uni :p:

Despite those things, though I did enjoy my time there! So what about you - what do you wish you'd been told before coming to Oxford?


-Whether or not I'd have a kitchen before I got there (Worcester). (I could have found this out by contacting the accommodation office first though I'm sure. And hall at Worcester is fantabulous so it wasn't a problem -just would have saved me bringing pots/pans/utensils etc).

-That it IS important to work hard during 1st year, despite all the 2nd/3rd years telling you 'it doesn't matter, you only need 40% to pass and everyone passes, it doesn't count towards your degree, and it's by far the easiest year, etc etc' (this is sound advice for the workaholics who did every question in their a-level textbooks, but *not* for people like me who have always been academically lazy).

-What to read over the summer - most people on my course got sent a reading list, but for some reason our tutor didn't bother (not exactly a problem but it would have been nice to get ahead, especially on topics which I'd not studied at a-level that others on my course had).

-Enjoy freshers' week but don't go mad - don't worry about going to every social event/signing up for everything at freshers' fair. You meet so many new people in fresher's week that you will probably forget who half of them are anyway, and it's not the only opportunity you'll get to socialise and make friends! more important is to get organised, don't miss any important lectures/meetings (DON'T sleep through your matriculation photo like I did!), find out where everything is & how to work the libraries etc. once everything calms down a bit then you can start branching out and spend more time socialising.

-If you're not sure about joining the Union, DON'T. You may well waste a lot of money on something you hardly ever use. If you later find that you wish you'd joined because you're jealous of the people who get to go to see all the cool speakers, you can still join in your 2nd year (and even as a non-member, you can still go to most of the events/debates -it just costs about £2 or something each time).

-Always stay on top of the workload. Getting behind with work was my downfall, as I never managed to catch up after only writing about 3 essays in my first term, and ended up retaking the year. The same thing happened in the 3rd term and I eventually withdrew and am now applying for a different subject at a different uni (one without any essays!) If you do miss a deadline, it's not the end of the world, just don't make a habit of it and try and catch up as soon as possible. You are not 'getting away with' anything by not doing the work set, and it will only come back to haunt you later.
Reply 2
I was just about to make a thread on this, for the same reason that the Cambridge forum have one! As a hopeful 2010 Fresher, I would like to know, as the thread title says, what you wish you'd been told before you arrived!
Reply 3
-Your first essay will be terrible. Your first tutorial will be terrifying. It can only get better.

-Don’t let the frantic socialising in fresher’s week stress you out too much. It’s okay to take time out, and hide in your room for a bit. Just because you don’t go to every single event in the JCR doesn’t mean that you’re going to be a social leper for the rest of your time in Oxford. In fact, it’s quite likely that the best friends you make are going to be the people you meet later.

-Accept that fresher’s week is only a week, and that the fun can’t last forever. That probably sounds really pessimistic, but I think it’s worth keeping in mind, so you’re prepared for the abrupt change between fresher’s week and 1st week. I remember finding it quite strange, how overnight, the JCR was emptied and everyone seemed to disappear into libraries. Fresher’s week is not an example of a typical week in Oxford. On the plus side, if you have a miserable time at first (as many people do), you might find it comforting to remember that everything changes very quickly.

-The quicker you learn how to manage your time, the better, but don’t worry if it seems like you hardly have any free time at first. It does get easier. You’ll find time for societies and other things later, even if it’s a struggle to fit everything in for the first couple of weeks.

-Explore as many colleges as you can, if you’re feeling nosy. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know anyone else there, and as long as you have your Bod card with you, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t explore. Beware of certain Christ Church porters, though.

-Get over your library phobia quickly. There is no point in being scared of the Bodleian. It’s not going to eat you.

-Actually, go to the Bodleian as much as you can anyway. It’s a special feeling, sitting at the top of the Rad Cam with a beautiful first edition of a Victorian book.

-Go to lectures. Obviously lectures vary in importance, depending on your subject, but lots of English students don’t bother with any of them, which is a shame. There are some bad lectures, but when they’re good, they’re really good. English freshers, if you see Evangelista’s name on the lecture list for next term, go go go.

-Explore your room thoroughly, and don’t be an idiot. I spent most of fresher’s week shivering to death in my room because I didn’t move the chair and realise that the window behind it had been left open by the scout.

-Matriculation isn’t even remotely exciting. The ceremony only lasts about five minutes, so don’t have any expectations.

-Make time for sleep. Terms may only be eight weeks long, but they can be quite intense, and you need the energy.

-If you bump into Thom Yorke in town, don't stare at him with a stupid, gormless expression on your face. It will make you feel silly.
Reply 4
That most students who talk about how much work they are doing all the time are either lying or trying to compensate for their own lack of belief in their abilities. Seriously you don't need to work 40+ hours a week or whatever even for finals, what matters more is staying calm and expressing what you do know in an organised and interesting manner when it actually comes to the exams. Like it or not Oxford rewards blagging, reading everything on the reading lists and being able to quote a million things really isn't important in the grand scheme of things. So don't let students who are constantly on about how much they have read or number of essays written make you feel like you aren't doing enough.
Reply 5
ManiaMuse
That most students who talk about how much work they are doing all the time are either lying or trying to compensate for their own lack of belief in their abilities. Seriously you don't need to work 40+ hours a week or whatever even for finals, what matters more is staying calm and expressing what you do know in an organised and interesting manner when it actually comes to the exams. Like it or not Oxford rewards blagging, reading everything on the reading lists and being able to quote a million things really isn't important in the grand scheme of things. So don't let students who are constantly on about how much they have read or number of essays written make you feel like you aren't doing enough.


I'd agree with that. I remember being told in the EFL induction that English students are expected to work for eight hours a day. I certainly don't, and I can't think of anyone else who does.
Reply 6
bysshe
I'd agree with that. I remember being told in the EFL induction that English students are expected to work for eight hours a day. I certainly don't, and I can't think of anyone else who does.

8 hours a day! Crazy, don't think I ever did that apart from a few occasions when I let all my work pile up and I had to get it all done in one day before a deadline.

Some tutors are a bit insane and set an unrealistic number of essays especially the younger ones in my experience. But even they seem to come around to letting you be lazy and not read everything/write rushed essays so long as you make an effort in tutorials.
anita21
Yeah it would have been useful if they'd told me whether or not I'd have a kitchen before I got there (Worcester) - I could have found this out by contacting the accommodation office first though I'm sure. And hall at Worcester is fantabulous so it wasn't a problem (just would have saved me bringing pots/pans/utensils etc)...


:hello: :biggrin: :hello:

I didn't know you were on here! :woo: The reason I ended up in the Mitchell Building in first year was coz I wrote to Steve Dyer and asked very nicely for a kitchen. As my older sis suspected, they probs took one look at the name, thought I would only eat halal or something and shoved me in the Mitch so I wouldn't cause too much trouble :rofl: There was something about how if you want a particular room or a kitchen, etc. to write, mentioned in one of our letters, so that's why I wrote and asked for a kitchen. They should tell people really though...

What do I wish I was told before coming to Oxford?:

- Don't fall ill. Ever. No time.
- If you fall ill, get doctors involved straightaway. Don't be stubborn. Get a note and shove it in your tutor's face asap! :yes:
- That my tutor is, in fact, a koala :eek: :confused: :yep:
- That the Music course is full of sex and is not for the prudish! :o:
- That starting the reading for an essay at 12am for a 9am deadline really isn't a good idea :no:
- That being at Oxford in the first place means that you are good at your subject. I spent most of the course thinking I was too thick to be there and if someone had drilled this into my brain at the very beginning, it would have saved a lot of grief

I'll add more as I think of them :cool:
Reply 8
The_Lonely_Goatherd
:hello: :biggrin: :hello:

I didn't know you were on here! :woo: The reason I ended up in the Mitchell Building in first year was coz I wrote to Steve Dyer and asked very nicely for a kitchen. As my older sis suspected, they probs took one look at the name, thought I would only eat halal or something and shoved me in the Mitch so I wouldn't cause too much trouble :rofl: There was something about how if you want a particular room or a kitchen, etc. to write, mentioned in one of our letters, so that's why I wrote and asked for a kitchen. They should tell people really though...


hey shan! :biggrin: :hello:

yeah I started using tsr recently to research unis for maths+compsci next year, then wandered over to the oxford forum and couldn't resist doling out a bit of advice rather than requesting it for a change! i was delighted to spot you in this forum a while back (sorry for not saying hello sooner!) you seem to be doing a grand job for worcester / music pr :p:

regarding accommodation, thinking back, actually i did write to the accomm office to request a room big enough to house a xylophone. they never replied but i think that's why they put me in the massive room in SC15, often given to tutors. just a shame it wasn't particularly soundproof!


Anyway, more on topic, I think everywhere (not just oxbridge) tell you you're expected to work ridiculous hours (e.g. i was recently at Bath open day and for maths you have 15 hrs contact per week and are expected to work 30 hrs outside that as well! i.e. 8hrs a day x6 days a week). The difference is that at oxbridge some people actually *do* work that hard! tutors push you to go that extra mile and set more work than even the most hardworking could hope to achieve - there's always extension work 'if you have time' above and beyond the minimum required, so you have to resign yourself to the fact that you will never be able to read everything on a reading list, write all the possible essays, do comprehensive research on every topic, revise every detail, etc, no matter how good your intentions are. if you're a perfectionist like me you may find this frustrating.
Reply 9
That there will be someone in your year who can start the reading for 3 essays at midnight, and have them all written by 9am. But, for the sake of your general wellbeing/sanity/ability to function as a human being, this person should not be you :p:
Reply 10
I have just finished my first year of a law degree at Oxford and these are the things I wish I knew before coming to Oxford:

i) It is vital to take part in every Freshers event put on by your college and make every effort to meet as many people as you can in the first week. I didn't do that and it took me a lot longer than to others to make friends at college and to really feel like I've fit in. Then again, my college is really small and there were only 3 new law students starting at the same time as me, so if you didn't make an effort, you would inevitably notice it sooner rather than later!

ii) There's no need to spend 45 hours a week working (whatever the Law Faculty or your tutors tell you!) and things can be done a lot more quickly and efficiently, once you know your way around things. As a law student, make sure to learn how to use electronic resources first and you will usually not need to browse through the endless shelves full of law reports at the LawBod (the library is actually one of the most soulless and loud places I have come across during my time at Oxford!)

iii) Finding a good place to work at is crucial. Being organised is also rather important. Work during the day, play during the night. Maybe this way you will be able to escape the feeling of guilt which comes when you are doing something other than work - I have never managed to! Register at All Souls library if you want a 9-6 place to do your work in. It is extremely quiet and generally a great and somewhat inspiring place to be. :smile:

iv) Do try and avoid leaving reading and essays for last minute. There were a few times I read and finished an essay for my tutorial in the space of 4 hours (somehow still got a high 2.1!); however, I've retained no information past that day and need to go through it all in the holidays. So, the moral of the story is: work hard and play hard, but do not overdo either! :smile:

v) The difference between the amount of work you need to put in to get a 2.1 and a First is actually larger than one would imagine (at least for law): so don't kill yourself 9 hours a day if you aren't absolutely set on achieving the latter :smile:.

vi) Always do your best, but keep a long term view on things: what really matters is the finals and not the one essay or tutorial. Therefore, make sure to work hard, but don't overdo it: I used to write ridiculously long essays for my tutes (getting Firsts for most of them), but still achieved only a high 2.1 in my Mods. Therefore, get the balance right. Look at the core reading list (especially applies to law students!), compare to the list your tutor gave you and take it from there. Most importantly, work smart. Make notes: you will need them for Finals.

Will post more if I think of anything else :smile:
Reply 11
that I didn't get in.
Anyone got any points related specifically to St Hilda's? I'd be intrigued to see if there's anything I should know before I arrive :smile: And also, how much of the reading list do you recommend reading before arriving? My grandparents went kinda crazy-happy when they found I got in and saw my reading list a couple of months later, and went and bought...everything (on abebooks so they weren't that expensive).
Reply 13
In undergrad-type exams, you have two options: encyclopaedic knowledge, or the blag factor. The former is brilliant, if you can deal with it (there were a few finals questions that I could happily have spent two/three times the allotted time on), but the latter is the more realistic option - a question to which you have a memorised essay is a gift (and one which I took full advantage of), but not something which you can rely upon. Ditto lengthy derivations that you happen to have rehearsed for weeks.
In research, blagging is not an option: you need to know everything published in your area inside out, otherwise you'll waste weeks going down dead ends. This is something you don't want to experience first hand, believe me.
Bobo1234
Anyone got any points related specifically to St Hilda's? I'd be intrigued to see if there's anything I should know before I arrive :smile: And also, how much of the reading list do you recommend reading before arriving? My grandparents went kinda crazy-happy when they found I got in and saw my reading list a couple of months later, and went and bought...everything (on abebooks so they weren't that expensive).


Ask for a Jemma special at the bar, the old rosie is deadly.
Reply 15
1) Hall food is uniformly shocking

2) Always apply to a college with punts

3) Budget for a summer ball ticket, so worth it

4) Food shopping is a luxury which is difficult to fit in

5) Even if you sleep long, drunk sleep is bad

6) Sleep plenty

7) Work sensible hours

8) All that stuff you didn't need to make notes on at school because it was pathetically easy, yeah, that stuff doesn't exist at Oxford.

9) You'll meet someone who will annihilate you at your subject on a daily basis. This does not make you a moron(I have this running through my head in tutes regularly)
Reply 16
Everybody else will feel as scared and out of place and not worthy as you do. Well, virtually everyone anyway. You ARE Oxford material and you WILL figure it out.

Apart from that:

bysshe
-Your first essay will be terrible. Your first tutorial will be terrifying. It can only get better.

Yes

-Don’t let the frantic socialising in fresher’s week stress you out too much. It’s okay to take time out, and hide in your room for a bit. Just because you don’t go to every single event in the JCR doesn’t mean that you’re going to be a social leper for the rest of your time in Oxford. In fact, it’s quite likely that the best friends you make are going to be the people you meet later.

Yes. I met my good friends clubbing... because we were the people who clearly didn't want to be there, and managed to attract all like minded people once we started seeing who could come up with the most original dance move (a la big fish, little fish, cardboard box)

-The quicker you learn how to manage your time, the better, but don’t worry if it seems like you hardly have any free time at first. It does get easier. You’ll find time for societies and other things later, even if it’s a struggle to fit everything in for the first couple of weeks.
Yes, yes, yes!!

-Explore as many colleges as you can, if you’re feeling nosy. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know anyone else there, and as long as you have your Bod card with you, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t explore. Beware of certain Christ Church porters, though.
Definitely

-Get over your library phobia quickly. There is no point in being scared of the Bodleian. It’s not going to eat you.
And your library apathy. You may not get the hype yet, but don't stay a Bod virgin until the end of your first year, and only then discover what a wonderful place it is!

-Go to lectures.
You can get by without them, but you'll have to work much harder!

-Matriculation isn’t even remotely exciting. The ceremony only lasts about five minutes, so don’t have any expectations.

-Make time for sleep. Terms may only be eight weeks long, but they can be quite intense, and you need the energy.

Yes and yes. Every single car journey home from Oxford I was asleep before we left the city. This may explain why I was perpetually dazed, confused and ill.
Reply 17
It's OK to not know stuff. It takes a while to get used to not being able to do every bit of work set in half the allotted time like in high school and college, but the sooner you realise that you're not expected to get everything right the first time, the better. I wish I'd known this in my first term - it would have saved me a lot of worrying.

On the other hand, don't give up too easily; especially in the physical sciences, perseverance will do wonders. Just don't lose sleep over it.

Also it's ok if you don't socialise with the people you live with; none of my close friends lived in my staircase in first year.
laeti
Also it's ok if you don't socialise with the people you live with; none of my close friends lived in my staircase in first year.


:awesome: :woo: :awesome:

Other things I've thought of:

- That it's YOUR degree, not your tutor's, and as such you're perfectly entitled to complain about the tuition you're receiving. (Though to be fair, I exercised my rights with that fairly quickly :biggrin: )
- That college welfare tutors have a fair bit of power and make handy allies, if needed :yep:
- That my faculty just wasn't quite ready for me :awesome:
- That eating Sainsburys party food at all hours of the night for an entire academic year will come back to haunt you in the end... :ninja:
- That 'Oxford' is more than the tiny area around Carfax and that other areas should be explored
- That deepest darkest Cowley had a Wilkinsons and Iceland, and Botley an Aldi (took a while to learn that)
- That your tutors are (usually) human(e) and won't think you're a muppet if you tell them weird things (like problematic library phobias!) :nah:

PS.
:hello:


What was so useless bout my post? :wink:
I agree with everything eve_22 has said about the law course. Although I would also add that it's entirely possible to have a couple of really good nights out a week without stressing that there's no way you'll be able to deal with the horrendous work load law involves. In fact, I'd completely recommend it - it's easier to be focused and get more done in the day, spending less time procrastinating on facebook when you know you've got to stop relatively early to get on with the business of beautification and pre-lash.

I only worked this out towards the end of my second year, which is probably my biggest Oxfordregret.

Also, having just done finals - it's amazing how much your brain can absorb and bring out in a three hour exam period. I was convinced that I had forgotten absolutely everything during the walk down and the tent-of-doom time, but then, even though the Law faculty very kindly decided to make our papers completely different from all the past papers in practically every subject, somehow, my brain decided to cope rather than run out the room screaming. People had actually told me not to worry about remembering absolutely everything before but I don't think I actually believed it before I finished!

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