[calikesindobabes]

Cannot everybody have his or her own religion then?

[Final Fantasy]

Which god and religion are you talking about? There's bloody loads of them and many don't even have a god, and to make matters more complicated - you can go ahead and invent new ones... be more specific.

Or were you referring to deism?

[calikesindobabes]

(Original post by Final Fantasy)
Which god and religion are you talking about? There's bloody loads of them and many don't even have a god... be more specific.

Or were you referring to deism?

I'm commenting generically.

Many say that God and religion are separate concepts, but if this is the case why still have religion? what use does it serve if humans create religion and not God?

[Lemonique]

Not all religion have Gods...?Christianity, Islam do have Gods. But religions such as Buddhisim do not pray to Gods.

Edit: I belief that religions and God comes together. Because its about the faith in God(no?) so they should come hand in hand.
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[Final Fantasy]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
I'm commenting generically.

How, when there's such a wide and diverse range of beliefs, and furthermore nothing preventing you from inventing new beliefs?

Are you sure you don't mean the Abrahmic god/religions? (Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.)

Many say that God and religion are separate concepts, but if this is the case why still have religion? what use does it serve if humans create religion and not God?

If you are indeed referring to the Abrahmic god/religions, then I'd say they are hardly separate... who are these 'many'?

Are you sure you're not thinking of deism?

[Final Fantasy]

(Original post by Lemonique)
Not all religion have Gods...?Christianity, Islam do have Gods. But religions such as Buddhisim do not pray to Gods.

Edit: I belief that religions and God comes together. Because its about the faith in God(no?) so they should come hand in hand.
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Right, because Christianity and Islam represent every single religion/cult/belief that exists or has ever existed.

Many religions have one or more gods and many have no gods.

[calikesindobabes]

(Original post by Final Fantasy)
How, when there's such a wide and diverse range of beliefs, and furthermore nothing preventing you from inventing new beliefs?

Are you sure you don't mean the Abrahmic god/religions? (Judaism, Christianity, Islam etc.)



If you are indeed referring to the Abrahmic god/religions, then I'd say they are hardly separate... who are these 'many'?

Are you sure you're not thinking of deism?

lol.. aren't theists supposed to be humble?

[Final Fantasy]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
lol.. aren't theists supposed to be humble?

I don't know?

[calikesindobabes]

The major holy books say so.

[kvang]

well being the fact that I'm not religious at all I try not to even think about it.
I'm spiritual(i know some of you may ask what's the difference, well I don't need a religion to drive me instead i like to consider myself being in tune with oneself, and having a balance with my mind, body, and soul. I can go on, but it's just too much to type.) But i just truly believe everyone should just live their lives and stop trying to shove each others religions down everyone's throat.

[Abiraleft]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
lol.. aren't theists supposed to be humble?

He's making valid points and there's nothing to suggest he's a theist.

With regards to the thread, not all people think gods and religion are separate. I'm sure a lot of religious people would disagree with that concept.

Also, you'd have to take it in context: when someone says god/s and religion are separate, they might mean it conceptually - in the sense that religion, or being religious, involves more than a belief in a god/gods (which does not translate to 'being religious does not mean you have to believe in a god/gods).

If you're asking if people think someone can be religious without believing in a god/gods, that would depend heavily on how you would define the latter. Some religions, for instance, might deny belief in a traditional model of god/gods, but proclaim belief in a Great Spirit or something like that.

[calikesindobabes]

(Original post by Abiraleft)
He's making valid points and there's nothing to suggest he's a theist.

With regards to the thread, not all people think gods and religion are separate. I'm sure a lot of religious people would disagree with that concept.

Also, you'd have to take it in context: when someone says god/s and religion are separate, they might mean it conceptually - in the sense that religion, or being religious, involves more than a belief in a god/gods (which does not translate to 'being religious does not mean you have to believe in a god/gods).

You can read these people's minds and souls?

[Abiraleft]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
You can read these people's minds and souls?

What?

[calikesindobabes]

How are you so sure what people mean when airing the phrase?

To many, God is not fully known by man, yet religion is invented by humans to further human ends. Because of this, what humans say God wants may not represent His true desires.

An example is how the church ran medieval society. Yes, there were Kings and feudal lords, but the church dictated how things operated based on what they cited as God's will.

[amime]

if god and religion are separate, why still have religion?

God and religion are separate... in the sense that you don't have to be religious to believe in a god and you don't have to believe in God to be religious.

There are plenty of religions that don't require a god, like buddhism.
There are plenty of religions that do require belief in god, like christianity and islam.

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
Cannot everybody have his or her own religion then?

Yes. Anybody is free to have/create their own religion if they wish.


You seem very confused so I'm either going to say that English isn't your first language or you are under the age of 16...?

[Politricks]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
lol.. aren't theists supposed to be humble?

Theism is simply the belief of an active god, it makes no mention of morality, whereas religion does (usually) talking about morality.

[Abiraleft]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
How are you so sure what people mean when airing the phrase?

To many, God is not fully known by man, yet religion is invented by humans to further human ends. Because of this, what humans say God wants may not represent His true desires.

An example is how the church ran medieval society. Yes, there were Kings and feudal lords, but the church dictated how things operated based on what they cited as God's will.

I'm not. That's why I said they might mean it in a certain way.

Um, I'm not sure how the part of your post after the initial sentence are relevant to the thread (I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to say either). If you're saying that people have manipulated religion with hidden motives over the years, I certainly agree - people have done that with lots of different ideologies, religious and not.

But I don't really see how my earlier post is invalidated.

[miser]

(Original post by calikesindobabes)
Cannot everybody have his or her own religion then?

Religion is the central feature; God is a part of an individual religion's dogma. All gods have associated religions, but not all religions have associated gods. On the other hand, belief in a given god is always an aspect of a particular religion.

I am not certain what is meant by the claim that God and religion are separate - if that is the case then one would be able to believe in a God without a binding religion, or vice versa, but this is not generally the case. Certain sects in Buddhism for example do not support the worship of gods, though these may still promote belief in other supernatural features such as reincarnation. A pantheist or perhaps some pagans might however consider God and religion to be separate, or consider God (or extant gods) to be secular in nature.

In terms of everybody having their own religion, this is more-or-less the case if we are somewhat pendantic about the definition of distinct religions. It is rare to find two people who hold exactly the same religious beliefs, even among the same denominations of religions. Most of these beliefs are incompatable with each other, and therefore it is reasonable to assume that very few people are likely to hold correct religious beliefs, if indeed anyone does at all.

Generally speaking though, the moment you start to promote belief in a God or gods, this becomes a tenet of some dogma, which is to be described as a religion. In this way it seems difficult to easily separate the two.