Why is the area under this curve negative?

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  1. hello calum's Avatar
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    Why is the area under this curve negative?
    y=\frac{1}{2}^x

    When I use a graph sketcher to sketch it, there is no part that goes under the x-axis.

    \int^\infty_0 \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = -1.44

    I know that it's negative because \int \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = \frac{\frac{1}{2}^x}{\ln\frac{1}  {2} } + C

    and ln(1/2) is negative, so my answer will be negative. But I don't understand why there is a negative number there. Is it just something I have to ignore? or is there a reason for it?

    Wolfram alpha calculates it as postive so maybe my working is wrong? If I'm being really stupid, I'm really sorry
  2. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    Surely the numerator tends to -1
  3. atsruser's Avatar
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    (Original post by hello calum)
    y=\frac{1}{2}^x

    When I use a graph sketcher to sketch it, there is no part that goes under the x-axis.

    \int^\infty_0 \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = -1.44

    I know that it's negative because \int \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = \frac{\frac{1}{2}^x}{\ln\frac{1}  {2} } + C

    and ln(1/2) is negative, so my answer will be negative. But I don't understand why there is a negative number there. Is it just something I have to ignore? or is there a reason for it?

    Wolfram alpha calculates it as postive so maybe my working is wrong? If I'm being really stupid, I'm really sorry
    \int^\infty_0 \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = \int^\infty_0 e^{x\ln 0.5} dx = [\frac{e^{xln0.5}}{\ln 0.5}]^{\infty}_{0} = 0 - \frac{1}{\ln 0.5}= -(\ln 0.5)^{-1} > 0

    unless I've made an error. So I think it's your working.
  4. DrSheldonCooper's Avatar
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    its -1/Log[1/2] = 1.4426
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    Substitute in Remember that there's another minus sign as the 0 is the lower limit (and the infinite limit disappears).
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    omg. I was putting them in the wrong way round :/ Sometimes I just do stuff the wrong way round for some reason
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    Re: Why is the area under this curve negative?
    (Original post by atsruser)
    \int^\infty_0 \frac{1}{2}^x\ dx = \int^\infty_0 e^{x\ln 0.5} dx = [\frac{e^{xln0.5}}{\ln 0.5}]^{\infty}_{0} = 0 - \frac{1}{\ln 0.5}= -(\ln 0.5)^{-1} > 0

    unless I've made an error. So I think it's your working.
    How does the evaluation at infinity equal 0?
    x \ln{0.5} = \ln{0.5^x} which tends to \ln0 as x tends to infinity, right?

    I get that e^{\ln X} = X but surely e^{\ln0} = 0 isn't valid, as what on earth is \ln 0?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I was being stupid. Of course, \ln0.5 is negative so e^{\infty \ln0.5} = e^{-\infty \ln2} = 0. Derp. :facepalm:
    Last edited by Astronomical; 04-08-2012 at 23:29.
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