Nice girl V Bad girl

Don't think it was tinie tempah that said that...

But surely if you respect yourself then you believe you are worthy and deserve to be treated right. If a guy is in a club (for example) and bragging about how many girls he can 'pull' and someone becomes on of these girls - getting off with a stranger who just wants to use her to get what he wants sexually and boost his ego in front of his friends. Surely this isn't having self respect. To become one of these girls. Why does a girl need these type of men to get sexual pleasure...can she not achieve this on her own I don't mean to come across like i'm having a go, am genuinely interested in how you believe this is right.

If a guy is in a club (for example) and bragging about how many girls he can 'pull' and someone becomes on of these girls - getting off with a stranger who just wants to use her to get what he wants sexually and boost his ego in front of his friends.

But why is that bad? For a one night stand, it's just fun. I think you see sex as something special whereas I just see it as something fun

Putting on my masculism hat on for a second Massive generalisation there. Us guys don't normally go around chest bumping and giving each other high fives over our lastest "victim". There's a little more too us than that Maybe it's not about the ego boost but that we actually quite enjoy sex.

You've objectified her by making the man have to "win" her.

Instead of it being a mutual thing that they're both attracted to one another, you've put her on some other thing that the man has to achieve.

The generalisation that women don't care about looks and care more about personality...

I don't know why I bother with you, Tyrion. Normally, I wouldn't even take people like you seriously and would just troll them. But for some reason, I have this weird belief that I can 'help' you. I'll try again.

But that's the way it is. The guy usually has to "win" her because of what she finds sexually attractive. It's not objectification.

You can bury your head in the sand all you like and refuse to accept the reality of the situation. But the reality won't change.

*Sigh*

We're talking about casual sex, right?

Yes, there are some instances where there is mutual attraction between both the guy and girl. But I don't believe this is the case generally.

It is well known that women generally find other things sexually attractive besides looks. For men, looks are generally the most important thing.

If men only care about looks or their sex drive is so high, that looks become quite irrelevant, then obviously the girl doesn't have to do much to impress a guy to get casual sex. Hence he's not a lock that needs to be unlocked.

But since women care about other stuff besides looks such as social status, confidence, humour, personality etc, they're not just going to give it up for any Average Joe (unless they're very insecure for example). Hence she's the lock that has to be unlocked. So the guy has to impress the woman with his status, confidence etc to unlock the girl and have sex with her.

Can you read?

I didn't say women don't care about looks (clubbing is an example of women caring about looks). I said they generally seem to value other things besides looks. Personality isn't the only thing. It's also social status, confidence etc.

If we're talking about casual sex those things don't come into it. Casual sex is about looks and confidence on both sides

And short term flings and short term relationships. I forgot to mention them as well.

Do you really think loads of women would be queuing up to have sex with a good looking man who clearly had no friends (even in a club), no interesting hobbies, no confidence, no interesting personality or humour?

Just for sex sure If someone's looking to smash and dash why does any of that matter?

I mean sense of humour is a plus, it's always nice to have a bit of fun, but aside from that, I disagree

For smash and dash, it shouldn't matter. But it does to many women.

For example, I have often seen good looking confident guys in clubs get rejected by girls (even ugly girls) after they saw the guy get rejected a few times. Clearly social status matters to them a bit.

Again, can you read?

I also mentioned short term flings and relationships.

You might disagree but a lot of women sure don't.

I have never seen or heard of a woman being attracted to a guy who didn't have confidence/social status/humour/personality. It's just a generalisation though.

Therefore, men usually have to unlock women to get sex. Hence the lock and key analogy.

Trust me car, wifing a ho is not da lick bro,
so before you think you're gonna get deep make sure you grab some info,
and i aint talking hobbies or interests, nah none of that **** bro,
i'm talking age of loss of virginity and text messages in phones yeah,
now chat to man who was in her class, **** her closet -
you don't want a skeleton flyin out her arse,
yes dig up all her past, find out which chicks she used to flex with,
to how many man she slept with; if its more than six then forget it, No, she can't be respected
cuz certain man are just to fast, quick to give their heart and wifey's bringing next man in the yard,
then it burns their clut,
you should have found out from the start but,
that's what you get kids
if you don't investigate and start to lust and then you get whipped,
done know these days these girls are brazen,
and who they roll with tends to be an accurate indication of how they tend to stay and,
watch how they act round other guys,
be careful who becomes your wife,
a dodgy chick'll **** up your mind,
**** up your life forever.

Why would it matter I honestly can't think why it would. A guy getting rejected wouldn;t bother me, nor would social status. What are those women, 12?

Well, that's a lot of women for you.

They might initially be attracted to a man with good looks. But as soon as they find out the guy has no friends or is stupid/cannot flirt or has no confidence, they lose interest.

A man who has a high number of sexual partners would have had to "unlock" many women with his confidence/charm/social status etc.

A woman with a high number wouldn't have had to work as hard as the other man to get so much sex.

Of course, I disagree with slut-shaming. But the lock and key analogy is legit.

Only if you socialise with numpties I literally can't think of anyone like that

But the lock and key analogy is legit.